Monster knock-off

Started by pennyrobber, April 16, 2009, 11:44:22 AM

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AfroStar

High end manufacturer has been the trend setter for all the copycats out there.  From Rolls, to Benz, Bentley's, Ferrari's, Porsche, They start the trend and it trickles down to the mid and low brands.... nothing new about that...don't be afraid of a little copycat...if you know you are the original. 

even designer hand bags have been bootlegged... Watches! you name it...Most of the trendsetter has been in Italy... so for a bike to look like a Classic Monster, best selling, iconic/timeless design for 14 years...

I love my classic... when Ducati brings back the Monster Classic... I will already have the "Classic"
I do believe you can't be innovative if you keep making classics, and not take risks, that's how we got here in the first place.
I think when they first came out with the Monster design, Ducati took a calculated risk... paid off big time...

OK, end of Rant, back to work.

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Quote from: AfroS4RS on April 17, 2009, 12:42:23 PM
High end manufacturer has been the trend setter for all the copycats out there.  From Rolls, to Benz, Bentley's, Ferrari's, Porsche, They start the trend and it trickles down to the mid and low brands.... nothing new about that...don't be afraid of a little copycat...if you know you are the original. 

even designer hand bags have been bootlegged... Watches! you name it...Most of the trendsetter has been in Italy... so for a bike to look like a Classic Monster, best selling, iconic/timeless design for 14 years...

I love my classic... when Ducati brings back the Monster Classic... I will already have the "Classic"
I do believe you can't be innovative if you keep making classics, and not take risks, that's how we got here in the first place.
I think when they first came out with the Monster design, Ducati took a calculated risk... paid off big time...

OK, end of Rant, back to work.

[moto]  [drink]
That's not true ask Harley-Davidson.  [roll] I don't like all the styling cues on the new Monster but I do think Ducati stayed true to the Monster design with the new bike. Besides what fun would it be to buy a Monster that didn't need some modding? The M1100s sits high on my list of possiblities for a next bike.

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Quote from: m1moto on April 17, 2009, 09:16:50 AM
This is what we need to do in the US, we will be better riders,  it's another opportunity for dealers to sell more bikes and the Government to collect more fees, win win for all

What we do NOT need in the US is more regulation!!  I hate all the regulations of what I can and can't do just because of idiots.  America is supposed to be the land of the free where you can do what you want when you want as long as you are not harming others.

If some idiot wants to get a hyabusa for his first bike and proceed to kill himself more power to him.  Thats one less moron on the road for me to worry about.

Sorry for the rant but I hate the way America has been going lately, this whole lets all hold hands and make sure the dregs of society live better then those of us whom work for a living mentality.

silentbob

Quote from: jestor00 on April 17, 2009, 03:10:22 PM
What we do NOT need in the US is more regulation!!  I hate all the regulations of what I can and can't do just because of idiots.  America is supposed to be the land of the free where you can do what you want when you want as long as you are not harming others.

If some idiot wants to get a hyabusa for his first bike and proceed to kill himself more power to him.  Thats one less moron on the road for me to worry about.

Sorry for the rant but I hate the way America has been going lately, this whole lets all hold hands and make sure the dregs of society live better then those of us whom work for a living mentality.


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Quote from: jestor00 on April 17, 2009, 03:10:22 PM
What we do NOT need in the US is more regulation!!  I hate all the regulations of what I can and can't do just because of idiots.  America is supposed to be the land of the free where you can do what you want when you want as long as you are not harming others.

If some idiot wants to get a hyabusa for his first bike and proceed to kill himself more power to him.  Thats one less moron on the road for me to worry about.

Sorry for the rant but I hate the way America has been going lately, this whole lets all hold hands and make sure the dregs of society live better then those of us whom work for a living mentality.

while I agree with most of this post, the example you provided is moot because said idiot that wants a hayabusa for his first bike is not only putting himself in danger when he rolls out onto public roads. 

I personally think it'd be nice to have some Idiot Laws put into effect though, just to prevent extreme(ly idiotic) situations like this one from happening, as believe it or not, there are make the beast blah blah blah tards out there that DO make irrational purchases like this, and proceed to make the yadda yadda themselves up and other bystanders, all because they CAN, because there are no moto idiot laws 'cept the helmet law (at least in most areas  [roll] )

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haven't heard of many (any?) situations where the biker who crashed seriously injured others. Dented the backs of cars because he had "stoppie-fail"? Yes. Killed a mini-van filled with Under-6 soccer team, driven by a nun? No.

TiAvenger

Quote from: ato memphis on April 17, 2009, 06:43:17 PM
haven't heard of many (any?) situations where the biker who crashed seriously injured others. Dented the backs of cars because he had "stoppie-fail"? Yes. Killed a mini-van filled with Under-6 soccer team, driven by a nun? No.


herm

Quote from: RBX QB on April 17, 2009, 10:35:47 AM
Just to keep the New Monster vs Old Monster thoughts going...

Maybe Ducati needs to go all Coke on us, and offer a Monster Classic in their lineup. Modern engine and harware with the original styling.

Like others, I like the styling of my '06 more than the new bikes. But, there is definitely a market for the new design direction. And how many Monsters really stay "as designed" for their entire lives?

but you cant buy "new coke" anymore...
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herm

and the pic of the bike welded into the side of the compact.

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Quote from: Raux on April 16, 2009, 01:31:03 PM

anyway... back to the monster rip offs, there have always been companies trying to grab ahold of ducati success by stealing their designs.


I'm pretty sure if Honda starting selling the same number of motos as Ducati, some people would be fired at Honda over it.


Honda sells a *lot* of bikes.
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Quote from: The banished on April 16, 2009, 12:08:02 PM
Id rather be seen on that as opposed to being seen on a 696.

agreed

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Quote from: littlewiseass on April 18, 2009, 08:41:07 AM
I'm pretty sure if Honda starting selling the same number of motos as Ducati, some people would be fired at Honda over it.


Honda sells a *lot* of bikes.

+1 
the difference is only about 35,000 Ducs to Honda's 3 million? 
If I was just learning to ride, I'd buy that Honda in a second over say a Ninja 250. 
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Quote from: Matty P on April 19, 2009, 05:34:31 PM
+1 
the difference is only about 35,000 Ducs to Honda's 3 million? 
If I was just learning to ride, I'd buy that Honda in a second over say a Ninja 250. 

Honda sold 28,586 motorcycles in December of 2008. In contrast, Ducati's record month for sales was July of 08 with 1410 bikes sold...
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Quote from: Matty P on April 19, 2009, 05:34:31 PM
If I was just learning to ride, I'd buy that Honda in a second over say a Ninja 250. 

Agreed.  It would be a great way to freshen up Honda's 250cc offerings here in the States.  The Nighthhawk 250 and Rebel 250 are great, economical, stone-tool reliable bikes.  However, they've not changed since the 80's.  How boring is that?  The Ninja 250 got a much needed update, Honda, it's time to catch up.

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