748 Brembo Masters on a S2R800?

Started by killerniceguy, April 27, 2009, 08:51:37 PM

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killerniceguy


I would like to get rid of the coffins.  Will the 748 masters work with the stock brakes/clutch of the S2R800 and plug into the brake/clutch electronics?

KNG
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Speeddog

If they're regular Goldlines, AFAIK they'll fit the hoses.

Electrical connections, not sure.
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Monstyr

They should plug straight on,except....(and this is the reason I haven't fitted the ones I've had in my garage for two years) the clutch interlock switch.
I looked around but couldnt find a switch that would be suitable for this, but then I just didn't pursue it any further. I might try again sometime, in the meantime if you make or find a ready solution then do let me know.
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COWBOY

#3
you should have no issues.  I have 999 radials on mine.  it was plug and play (edit:  including the clutch switch).



2005 S2R -- Mods installed: DP termi full racing kit, ST4 Forks, S4R rear shock, 999 Radial Brake and Clutch MCs, 4 pot Brembo Calipers, 320mm Snowflake rotors, SBK Quick change carrier, 43T rear sproket, Tomaselli Clip Ons, Cyclecat Frame Sliders, ASV Levers, zero indicators, Supernova taillight

teddy037.2

the only issue I found was the clutch interlock switch. there is no easy way of bolting the one off the coffin onto the new MC.

an OE switch would plug n'play, but will cost you.

what I did for a quick-fix was pop open the switch case for the stock switch, cut out a little piece of plastic from a blister pack from something I had bought to fit inside the case, and snap the casing back together.

it essentially just keeps the switch closed, and it was free  :D

DarkStaR

Quote from: teddy037.2 on April 28, 2009, 09:28:21 AM
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what I did for a quick-fix was pop open the switch case for the stock switch, cut out a little piece of plastic from a blister pack from something I had bought to fit inside the case, and snap the casing back together.

it essentially just keeps the switch closed, and it was free  :D

Or you could just jump the connectors.  Still free, same results, and less work.

COWBOY

if there are this many issues with the 998/748 masters then get the 999 radials.  I know for a fact they work, including the clutch switch.

2005 S2R -- Mods installed: DP termi full racing kit, ST4 Forks, S4R rear shock, 999 Radial Brake and Clutch MCs, 4 pot Brembo Calipers, 320mm Snowflake rotors, SBK Quick change carrier, 43T rear sproket, Tomaselli Clip Ons, Cyclecat Frame Sliders, ASV Levers, zero indicators, Supernova taillight

corey

Is there any performance benefit to switching 999 radial masters?
Especially regarding brakes?
Cowboy, i see you have some uber-upgraded brakes... Had you had the masters on before you upgraded everything else? Or was it all done at once?
I have been wondering if changing my brake master to something with a larger piston, or something that applies a little more pressure, will give a bit more responsiveness (not necessarily stopping power though) from my brakes...
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teddy037.2

Quote from: DarkStaR on April 28, 2009, 11:03:17 PM
Or you could just jump the connectors.  Still free, same results, and less work.

yeah... but that plastic was already sitting on the floor of the garage at the time... it still wasn't more'n 5 minutes' work

Quote from: COWBOY on April 29, 2009, 09:04:21 AM
if there are this many issues with the 998/748 masters then get the 999 radials.  I know for a fact they work, including the clutch switch.

the radials use the same switch as the monsters? sweet! why did I not know this earlier?

DarkMonster620

So that means I could install 748/998/749/999 full system to my M620D?...
I mean, brake master, calipers, rotors, clutch master.....
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teddy037.2

Quote from: M620D on April 29, 2009, 04:29:25 PM
So that means I could install 748/998/749/999 full system to my M620D?...
I mean, brake master, calipers, rotors, clutch master.....

if your '05 is an early build bike (like mine) you already have the gold, 4 pot calipers. buying the clutch/brake masters are all you need.  I've got the 998 set for mine.

if your '05 is a later build, it will have the black 2 pot calipers w/spacers for the front brakes (and a plastic gas tank)

I also picked up an aftermarket clutch slave at the time, fig'd I'd take care of it all in one shot  [thumbsup]

COWBOY

Quote from: M620D on April 29, 2009, 04:29:25 PM
So that means I could install 748/998/749/999 full system to my M620D?...
I mean, brake master, calipers, rotors, clutch master.....

748/998 yes you could install all those things

749/999 only the masters are plug and play.  the rotors and calipers use different spacing.



2005 S2R -- Mods installed: DP termi full racing kit, ST4 Forks, S4R rear shock, 999 Radial Brake and Clutch MCs, 4 pot Brembo Calipers, 320mm Snowflake rotors, SBK Quick change carrier, 43T rear sproket, Tomaselli Clip Ons, Cyclecat Frame Sliders, ASV Levers, zero indicators, Supernova taillight

DarkMonster620

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Quote from: teddy037.2 on April 29, 2009, 05:24:20 PM
if your '05 is an early build bike (like mine) you already have the gold, 4 pot calipers. buying the clutch/brake masters are all you need.  I've got the 998 set for mine.

if your '05 is a later build, it will have the black 2 pot calipers w/spacers for the front brakes (and a plastic gas tank)

I also picked up an aftermarket clutch slave at the time, fig'd I'd take care of it all in one shot  [thumbsup]

No I've got the one with the really really small calipers...Look at the photographs of it...And the plastic 2.6Gl tank, not the larger capacity..ARRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHH  [bang]  [bang]  [bang]  [bang]  [bang]

Does the clutch slave help that much?...I've got used to the Ducati OEM.  ???

COWBOY >>>>
                      Thanks for the info.... [thumbsup] [beer]
Carlos
I said I was smart, never that I had my shit together
Quote from: ducatiz on March 27, 2014, 08:34:34 AMDucati is the pretty girl that can't walk in heels without stumbling. I still love her.
"When you have eliminated all which is impossible, then whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth."

teddy037.2

Quote from: M620D on April 29, 2009, 08:02:23 PM
No I've got the one with the really really small calipers...Look at the photographs of it...And the plastic 2.6Gl tank, not the larger capacity..ARRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHH  [bang]  [bang]  [bang]  [bang]  [bang]

Does the clutch slave help that much?...I've got used to the Ducati OEM.  ???

COWBOY >>>>
                      Thanks for the info.... [thumbsup] [beer]

yeah, so it looks like you'll be looking for the bigger calipers to do the full mod action.

when I did my install, I kinda almost stripped the banjo on the slave side, so I fig'd "hey, I'll just swap the master, no biggie"... swapped it, bled it, and the pull was noticably heavier than the stock coffin.

got the banjo off, put on the... evo? slave... re-bled, and the pull was just as easy as stock.  yes, changing out my clutch master was just to be matchy-matchy  :D  it seems to have slightly more of a friction zone, but my hand-feel is like butt dyno, so YMMV

DarkMonster620

Quote from: teddy037.2 on April 29, 2009, 09:20:09 PM
yeah, so it looks like you'll be looking for the bigger calipers to do the full mod action.

when I did my install, I kinda almost stripped the banjo on the slave side, so I fig'd "hey, I'll just swap the master, no biggie"... swapped it, bled it, and the pull was noticably heavier than the stock coffin.

got the banjo off, put on the... evo? slave... re-bled, and the pull was just as easy as stock.  yes, changing out my clutch master was just to be matchy-matchy  :D  it seems to have slightly more of a friction zone, but my hand-feel is like butt dyno, so YMMV

What if I go to both pumps radial?
Carlos
I said I was smart, never that I had my shit together
Quote from: ducatiz on March 27, 2014, 08:34:34 AMDucati is the pretty girl that can't walk in heels without stumbling. I still love her.
"When you have eliminated all which is impossible, then whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth."