696 charcoal canister removal

[Holden]

do i HAVE TO T the vent hose & overflow hose together? i am so confused. someone please help!

No. Just take all the hoses off entirely. Raux is talking some weirdness... (unless you top off regularly and plan on overfilling your tank)

(you can just leave them hanging somewhere if you prefer, but they definitely don't need to be joined)

[mrplease]

ok its done. simple really. just had to get it all figured out first.

only thing is i'm getting a strong gas smell. my friend suggested it wouldn't have the strong odor if we did T the vent hose and overflow together. is this correct?

[Holden]

only thing is i'm getting a strong gas smell. my friend suggested it wouldn't have the strong odor if we did T the vent hose and overflow together. is this correct?

That's weird reasoning—the fumes would just come out the end of the T instead of the red vent nipple. No fumes will come out of the overflow side unless there's gas trapped in the filler cap area (this would be visible). It's sealed when the filler cap is closed.

I just yanked both hoses. Risk of fire IF I over-fill and petrol drips down on a hot engine, but on top of the odds of that happening I'm not sure it would be easily accomplished while leaned over on the stand (black overflow nipple is also on the left side).

[ungeheuer]

No. Just take all the hoses off entirely. Raux is talking some weirdness... (unless you top off regularly and plan on overfilling your tank)

(you can just leave them hanging somewhere if you prefer, but they definitely don't need to be joined)

OK - So to add to the confusion here's my 2 cents worth:  I completely disagree with Holden and am in total agreement with how Raux has gone about removing this bloody thing. 

Why?  Coz "unless you top off regularly and plan on overfilling your tank" - One day you WILL overfill it.  Do you really want any  risk of fire, however remote?!?!?
Why?  Coz the way Raux describes having removed this thing is precisely the way my Aussie-delivered 696 was shipped from the factory. In other words Raux's method replicates the factory set-up for 696's in markets where the charcoal canister is not mandated.
Why?  Coz when it's really not that hard to do-it-like-the-factory-does-it, why the bloody hell wouldn't ya??

[mrplease]

ok here is what i did.

i removed the two hoses from the intake manifold. i plugged up the holes with some rubber nipples and clamped them on. that is basically all i did. so please tell me if this is what i need to do next... T the vent hose & the over flow hose together. and then i am hoping that is all i am suppose to do and i am also hoping i did it correct!

[mrplease]

ANYONE?!?

[Holden]

IIRC the overflow hose is already routed straight down through the plastic hose guard (which I also removed). You just need to stick the vent hose somewhere it won't flop around. Again, no point in a T joint as the overflow hose is sealed when the gas cap is closed. Even if it weren't, what were you planning to achieve through that? Ah, I get it. That way the vent hose isn't "loose." That's optimal if you're going to keep the hose(s). Sorry for [being confused].

P.S. I am sure if your pump does not stop when it should there is going to be much more gas spilling out than the miniature overflow nipple is able to deal with. A U.S. gas pump delivers gas at a rate of 10 gallons per minute (1/6 gallon a second). Will gravity abate that current quickly enough through the pinhole?

[Raux]

sorry to take so long to reply.

the vent hose should be connected to the overfill hose to vent the fumes below the bike. the hose length kinda leaves it near a hot part of the engine. probably not a good thing. also, if you just take the hose off, you're venting fumes into the space in the tank panels where the battery resides also probably not a good thing.

[mrplease]

sorry to take so long to reply.

the vent hose should be connected to the overfill hose to vent the fumes below the bike. the hose length kinda leaves it near a hot part of the engine. probably not a good thing. also, if you just take the hose off, you're venting fumes into the space in the tank panels where the battery resides also probably not a good thing.

awsome!

yeah thats what i'm planning on doing tonight. t connecting the vent hose to the overfill hose.

thanks for all the help guys!!!

[ungeheuer]

ANYONE?!?

In my world it's already tomorrow, but I see that while I was sleeping Raux gave you what you need!

How's yesterday going btw?   

[Special K]

Speaking from experience I did the canister removal, vacuum caps, t-fitting for vent and overflow hose and euro air conveyor. I can say with certainty (sadly) that the overflow hose cannot handle actually overflowing at the gas pump. Looks better without canister and runs smoother IMO without. It seems the canister set up a not so airtight situation. You'll be happy with this mod for sure.

[Holden]

I can say with certainty (sadly) that the overflow hose cannot handle actually overflowing at the gas pump.

Thank you, MythBuster!

[R2]

I was told by a local shop that I shouldn't use the vacuum caps for the throttle bodies because they get old and crack, then air can get through them. They gave me some bolts to use instead. When I took the vacuum caps off, they were already beginning to get some surface cracks, nothing too bad, but that was only after about 4 months.

[Holden]

I was told by a local shop that I shouldn't use the vacuum caps for the throttle bodies because they get old and crack, then air can get through them. They gave me some bolts to use instead. When I took the vacuum caps off, they were already beginning to get some surface cracks, nothing too bad, but that was only after about 4 months.

Good point! Sure enough... starting to get grody...

Found a couple bolts in the garage.

[Raux]

can anyone identify the correct bolt size and length