S2R 800 clutch damage

[booger]

Looks like the stamped steel basket failed at keeping the spring and it got caught in between the basket and the casing thereby tearing stuff up. It looks almost as if the retaining tab was pried up with a screwdriver or something. I say your photos are good enough to at least try to demand that Ducati do a good faith repair. That sometimes happens. If not please refer to my post above with the link to an engine with 2500 miles on it for sale by a member of this forum. Hope you get it fixed. BTW nice Magnum PI Ferrari, those are cool.

Makes me wish someone made a decent aftermarket billet clutch basket for these bikes. I remember another members' clutch grenading like this. Definitely a tragedy with an otherwise very nice clean bike.

[Dave328]

Yeah, that other Italian POS just cost me another $8k to get out of the shop for bent valves caused by a slipped cam belt! Think I'm going to switch my allegiance to Germany!

[mikeb]

I just looked up on Ducati Omaha, OEM cases for an '04 800 engine are  ~$4k.
OEM clutch basket (which has the primary gears with it, matched gearset) is ~$750.
Plus other parts, plus sales tax....$5.5k-6k in parts *easy*.

Second-hand complete engine is a way cheaper way to go.

Dave and I were talking about this aspect of the repair when he got his estimate.  How on earth can cases cost $4k on an $8500 bike?  I mean how can they sell the bike for it's target MSRP if the cases are $4k? 

[Speeddog]

That situation isn't just Ducatis, same for other bikes and cars.

Replacement parts are capital tied up for as long as it takes 'em to sell, and there's substantial cost to warehousing them, paperwork, etc.

Just The Way It Is. 

[booger]

Just The Way It Is. 

Yup, the bikes are always less than the sum of their parts. Wonder how much a 696 would cost if someone got the parts manual and added up the prices of each individual piece. Would be a fun bit if information to have if someone else would do the research.

Precisely why I'm all about used parts [moto]

[Dave328]

I'm going to round up the supplies I need to attempt a repair today. I'll take pics and post them as I go. <crosses fingers>

Dave

[caperix]

If you have trouble finding an ATPC basket or deside you want something with a little more clutch feel the clutch off a ss800 or non atpc monster 800/620 will bolt in.  I did this to my 620 after the ATPC started slipping.

[Dave328]

Hate to revive this old thread, but, I finally have closure! Took the bike out for a ride this evening!
A huge thanks to everybody who offered helpful advice and ideas!!
I trimmed the cracked piece of engine casing. Cost: $10 in Dremel bits
Replaced the slipper S2r clutch housing with a complete setup from a 800SS. Cost: $112
Dealer wanted $8K
My out of pocket = $122 give or take a dollar or two.
Man, did it sure feel good to get up on two wheels after 10 months!

Dave

[corey]

well done man. way to soldier through a tough situation.

[CairnsDuc]

Well done! 
I was kinda worried when I saw your drama, fellow S2R 800 owner myself, but I think I would have done the same as your self, I damn near fell off my chair when I saw your original quote for the repair! Bloody scary!
Glad it all worked out fine

Now go and  [moto] the damn thing!

[Dave328]

Thanks!
I already told the wife to not expect ANYTHING to get done this weekend!

[moto]

[WhiteStripe]

Nice save!!! good luck.

[Dave328]

Thanks all!
Man, after 150 miles with the new clutch, it's like I'm riding a completely different bike. (duh, ) Much better feel. Maybe it's just my lack of seat time over the last few months, but it feels like the bike pulls much harder too.  [moto]

[gerry]

Hi Guys

This has just happened to my s2r 800 .... 2006 with 4900 miles on the clock. Two of the springs in the back of the basket broke out and the bits went in between the oil pump gear and the primary gear. This has smashed the oil pump and cracked the crankcases where the oil pump dowels are.

If i am able to get the cases alloy welded i will also not be sticking the original type clutch basket back in there ... exactly which non slipper clutch did you use ...... cheers guys ....

Is this happening to other poor s2r owners ... it's a bad one as you found out can be a big repair bill ... may have to scrap the bike......

[Dave328]

I found a complete clutch assy for a 2003 800SS on ebay. Worked like a charm.
I feel your pain, really. Ducati NA is fully aware of the problem but refuses to address it with a recall saying the instances of failure are virtually "non existant".   Because of this Ducati will NEVER get one penny of my money EVER again. No shirts,hats,DP bike accessories, and absolutely NO more new bikes!!!