Anyone less than impressed with their 696, or is it just me?

Started by RC Fan, May 29, 2009, 01:14:12 PM

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Chchadder

Yeah, the SV Bandit (same thing... :-\) and the smaller Monster's are pretty much the same bike with the exception of the coolness factor.  Parts are expensive, but there are plenty of ways to save on parts.  You just have to hunt a little bit.  I didn't really like the 696 when it came out, but then again I didn't buy one.
09 Triumph Daytona 675 - Rocket -
07 695 Custom Dark - Sold -

This motorcycle is simply too goddamn fast to ride at speed in any kind of normal road traffic unless you're ready to go straight down the centerline with your nuts on fire and a silent scream in your throat. ~Hunter S. Thompson

RC Fan

Quote from: Chchadder on May 29, 2009, 02:34:44 PM
Yeah, the SV and the smaller Monster's are pretty much the same bike with the exception of the coolness factor.  Parts are expensive, but there are plenty of ways to save on parts.  You just have to hunt a little bit.  I didn't really like the 696 when it came out, but then again I didn't buy one.

I had a Bandit (inline 4), not an SV.

I looked for a front rim online, but didn't have any luck.
Cathy

Previous bikes:  2007 Suzuki Bandit 650S & 2009 Ducati Monster 696
Current bikes:  2009 Yamaha XT250 & 2012 Triumph Street Triple R

Chchadder

Yep, made the same mistake as Privateer in that post.  Where's my reading glasses?!? [coffee]
09 Triumph Daytona 675 - Rocket -
07 695 Custom Dark - Sold -

This motorcycle is simply too goddamn fast to ride at speed in any kind of normal road traffic unless you're ready to go straight down the centerline with your nuts on fire and a silent scream in your throat. ~Hunter S. Thompson

RC Fan

Quote from: Chchadder on May 29, 2009, 02:38:54 PM
Yep, made the same mistake as Privateer in that post.  Where's my reading glasses?!? [coffee]

We all make mistakes.  I, for instance, have bought the wrong bike twice now, despite doing a fair amount of research. [bang]
Cathy

Previous bikes:  2007 Suzuki Bandit 650S & 2009 Ducati Monster 696
Current bikes:  2009 Yamaha XT250 & 2012 Triumph Street Triple R

w7ck7d

09' 696 Black
94' BRONCO 5.8 EB

Bun-bun

Quote from: RC Fan on May 29, 2009, 02:43:24 PM
We all make mistakes.  I, for instance, have bought the wrong bike twice now, despite doing a fair amount of research. [bang]
Yeah, should've gone up in displacement. See if you can test an 1100, or a used S2R.
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Mash

I have to replace the front rim on my s2r1k from a crash.  $1500 for a new OEM one.  I watched eBay for almost 2 months before I was able to snag one. I wound up getting a used set, in white, for $599.   I'm gonna resell the good rear and the dented front soon.
'06 S2R1000

corndog67

Apparently in other, strange foreign countries, the Bandit 650 is like a GSX 650 Katana here.   Probably more HP, less torque, a bit more weight and faster than the 696.   I did a double take when I saw the 650 Bandit description.   

RC Fan

Quote from: corndog67 on May 29, 2009, 04:00:17 PM
Apparently in other, strange foreign countries, the Bandit 650 is like a GSX 650 Katana here.   Probably more HP, less torque, a bit more weight and faster than the 696.   I did a double take when I saw the 650 Bandit description.   

Yes, the Bandit 650 is now the GSX650F.  The fuel injected, liquid cooled Bandit 650 was only available in Canada for the model year of 2007.
Cathy

Previous bikes:  2007 Suzuki Bandit 650S & 2009 Ducati Monster 696
Current bikes:  2009 Yamaha XT250 & 2012 Triumph Street Triple R

Privateer

Quote from: RC Fan on May 29, 2009, 02:32:36 PM
My first bike was Bandit 650S (GSF650), not an SV.

bah
my bad, sorry.

I can't find enough info on the bandit to post a reasonable comparison
My fast lap is your sighting lap.

RC Fan

Quote from: Privateer on May 29, 2009, 04:20:06 PM
bah
my bad, sorry.

I can't find enough info on the bandit to post a reasonable comparison


No worries.  The specs on the current GSX650F are pretty much identical to the Bandit 650.  I believe it was about 85 horses, the torque was around 60, and the dry weight was  around 483lbs.  I naively assumed that because the hp was close, and the Monster was a lot lighter, that the Monster would perform better.
Cathy

Previous bikes:  2007 Suzuki Bandit 650S & 2009 Ducati Monster 696
Current bikes:  2009 Yamaha XT250 & 2012 Triumph Street Triple R

booger

RC Fan -
1) eBay/ DMF parts forum for a new front wheel. I see the Brembo 3-spokes in black, gray, and gold all the time and they don't usually go for much. The 3 spoke wheels are notoriously heavy and people often like to upgrade them to something lighter. Seriously if you can't find any of these you aren't looking hard enough. If you are only looking for 696 front wheels you might expand your search to include 620/695/750/800/1000 wheels from earlier Monsters, and wheels from Supersports, S4, and maybe 749/999. Nobody but nobody should have to resort to paying the dealer an outrageous amount of cash for a new part that so many other people instantly upgrade and throw up for sale at hundreds less. I got a set of brand new OEM mufflers for $50 that was taken off a new bike when the dealer price was in excess of $800 for each one. Used parts are your friend, just make sure they are ship-shape.
2) Use your misfortune as an excuse for an upgrade. For a modest amount more than $1500 for just one rim you can get a set of much lighter wheels that will make the bike perform more in line with your expectations. Wheels make a big difference. Check what the dealer wants for a set of the upgraded 696 wheels. 

After test riding a 696 in stock trim I thought it was a competent bike ready for some upgrades. One cannot really say it's gutless, but you really need the Termi kit and some lightweight wheels to make it just right. Those things were made with subsequent Termi upgrading in mind. A rear sprocket with 2 or 3 more teeth would help as well. Good luck, I hope you don't end up paying $1500 for a front wheel.
Everybody got a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson

2001 M900Sie - sold
2006 S2R1000 - sold
2008 HM1100S - sold
2004 998 FE - $old
2007 S4RT
2007 Vespa LX50 aka "Slowey"
2008 BMW R1200 GSA

Scotzman

There's definetly things you can do to get more juice out of your bike, like mentioned the Termi kit, sproket changes, etc.
"Get your haggis right here. Chopped heart and lungs boiled in a wee sheep's stomach.
Tastes as good as it sounds. Good for what ales you."

He Man

or just trade in for street triple r..... damn im preaching that pretty heavily arent i? :)

Takster

It should be mentioned that there are reputable places out there that do rim repair for around $150.  Do a search, I'm feeling lazy.

'09 Monster 696