Carrozzeria Wheels for my new Monster (NEW PICS)

[Travman]

IIRC those wheels are not much lighter then stock. I'd check the weight. If you are going to spend the dough might as well get lighter wheels at the same time.

Here is the weight of the Carrozzerria wheels according to Moto Wheels:
"Super Light Weight 7.8 lbs (front), 13.4 lbs (rear) Approved DOT (USA), TUV (Europe) & JWL (Japan)" 

Also from the Moto Wheels website, here is the weight for comparable Marchesini & Ducati OEM wheels:
"NEW Marchesini Alum Forged 10 spoke (748-998): Front: 7.64 pounds; Rear: 9.98

Original Marchesini 5 spoke magnesium (748-998): Front - 6.80 lbs, Rear - 8.70lbs

NEW 10 spoke forged magnesium wheels (748-998) : Front: 6.04lbs, Rear: 7.76lbs

Ducati OEM aluminum 3-spokes (748-996), 11.5 lbs front, 13 lbs rear

Ducati OEM aluminum 5-spokes (996/998), 9.25 lbs front, 12 lbs rear"

So if these figures are correct and comparable then the front rim Carrozzeria is very close to the 10 spoke forged aluminum Marchesini for signifcantly less money.  However, the rear Carrozeria is actually heavier than the Ducati OEM cast aluminum wheels?  That doesn't sound right?

[booger]

Hmm yeah what's with that? I think the weight savings may only be realized with the SSSA bikes. I'd email Carrozzeria about it and explain. You might have to get the Marchis if you can't get a decent weight reduction from the Carrozzerias.

[RetroSBK]

Ive done the Carrozzeria wheels on several customer bikes over the years. the rear wheels are quite heavy, alot because of the (very good) cush drive setup they use. They use huge steel bolts, and the rotor adapter bolts are steel, etc. You can fit Ti bolts, but by the time you buy the bolts, any weight savings is gone.

The deal with the anodize is that Type II anodize isnt very UV resistant, and sunlight quickly degrades any dark colors quickly. Hard anodize is a muddled brown in color, and although there are few colors they can add to it, it then is no longer hard ano.

The marchesini wheel isnt really powder, but is an oven baked paint, wet applied. Powder is dry applied. I would get the wheels you want and have them powdercoated. There is NO way you, nor anyone else on this board will ever, EVER be able to tell the difference in the wieght of the powder on the wheels. I doubt Mladin or Spies could tell. Get what you want and the color you want. If you have the money, the BST or the GaleSpeed CF wheels are by FAR the best. otherwise, a set of forged mag or aluminum wheels are awesome. You WILL be able to tell the difference between the mag and the aluminum wheels tho, even on the street.

Will

[hbliam]

So if these figures are correct and comparable then the front rim Carrozzeria is very close to the 10 spoke forged aluminum Marchesini for signifcantly less money.  However, the rear Carrozeria is actually heavier than the Ducati OEM cast aluminum wheels?  That doesn't sound right?

The weight of the rear would be a deal killer for me. 1 pound or even 1/2 pound makes a huge differance.

[Travman]

My local dealer recently weighed a set of Marchesini forged aluminum wheels and a set of the Carrozzeria forged aluminum wheels on the same scale.  They said the set of Carrozzerias was 1 pound lighter than the set of Marchesinis.  Also, compared to a set of stock 3 spoke cast aluminum wheels from one of their customer's ST3, the Carrozeria set was 17 lbs lighter.

[Drunken Monkey]

The weight of the rear would be a deal killer for me. 1 pound or even 1/2 pound makes a huge differance.

That's kind of a mixed bag. Front wheel weights are hugely noticeable, rear... not nearly as much.

[squidwood]

as a previous poster said a couple of pounds or even a few ounces is not going to make a huge difference.This is a Ducati Monster forum,Monsters are not racebikes.I doubt if there are 10 registered users on this forum that would be able to tell the difference between a powdercoated rim at speed and an anodized rim at speed.
As far as anodizing is concerned , once aluminum has been anodized it cannot be stripped and re done.I was going to do that to my handlebars a couple years ago and was told by the anodizer its not possible as anodizing changes the molecular make up of the alloy. Once done its done.
Have a happy day people.

[kopfjäger]

As far as anodizing is concerned , once aluminum has been anodized it cannot be stripped and re done.I was going to do that to my handlebars a couple years ago and was told by the anodizer its not possible as anodizing changes the molecular make up of the alloy. Once done its done.

Scroll down to the sprocket.

http://www.focuser.com/atm/anodize/anodize.html

[sno_duc]

Here is the weight of the Carrozzerria wheels according to Moto Wheels:
"Super Light Weight 7.8 lbs (front), 13.4 lbs (rear) Approved DOT (USA), TUV (Europe) & JWL (Japan)" 

Also from the Moto Wheels website, here is the weight for comparable Marchesini & Ducati OEM wheels:
"NEW Marchesini Alum Forged 10 spoke (748-998): Front: 7.64 pounds; Rear: 9.98

Original Marchesini 5 spoke magnesium (748-998): Front - 6.80 lbs, Rear - 8.70lbs

NEW 10 spoke forged magnesium wheels (748-998) : Front: 6.04lbs, Rear: 7.76lbs

Ducati OEM aluminum 3-spokes (748-996), 11.5 lbs front, 13 lbs rear

Ducati OEM aluminum 5-spokes (996/998), 9.25 lbs front, 12 lbs rear"

So if these figures are correct and comparable then the front rim Carrozzeria is very close to the 10 spoke forged aluminum Marchesini for signifcantly less money.  However, the rear Carrozeria is actually heavier than the Ducati OEM cast aluminum wheels?  That doesn't sound right?

We put a set on Mrs. sno_duc's 620, the front is lighter the rear about the same, of course the rear is now a 180  .

[ducpainter]

They still make paint in black too.

[fasterblkduc]

Monsters are not racebikes.

Ah crap! Why didn't you guys tell me that sooner?

[kopfjäger]

^^^  

[squidwood]

I did as you said and went and looked at that web site.
The anodizer I spoke to does commercial work only maybe its the difference between the hard and soft anodizing? I don't know.
I only know what I am told and am not going to argue about it. That is pointless.
If I am wrong I apologise.

[Travman]

I went with the Carrozzerias.  I'll post pictures with the wheels on the bike soon.


The wheel was light enough that I could have held it out like this for 10 minutes.

[Travman]

Here they are on the bike.