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dropstharockalot

June 21, 2009, 04:37:23 PM
Is the oil sump plug on a '96 M900 a 21mm or 20mm socket?  Also, is there a gasket or anything inside that I'm gonna destroy when I muscle the stuck sump plug off with a chisel or other persuader?

Thx in advance,

DTRAL
'96 M900
Stage One - K&N Pods- DynaCoils - Remus Ti Hi-mount pipes (dented) -Thrashed paint - dented tank - Oberon bar-ends

ducpainter

#1
June 21, 2009, 05:07:55 PM
Quote from: dropstharockalot on June 21, 2009, 04:37:23 PM
Is the oil sump plug on a '96 M900 a 21mm or 20mm socket?  Also, is there a gasket or anything inside that I'm gonna destroy when I muscle the stuck sump plug off with a chisel or other persuader?

Thx in advance,

DTRAL
The 21 mm socket thingy is the screen.

The drain plug is a 10mm allen on the bottom of the cases.
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dlearl476

#2
June 22, 2009, 09:00:12 AM
Quote from: painter on June 21, 2009, 05:07:55 PM
The 21 mm socket thingy is the screen.

The drain plug is a 10mm allen on the bottom of the cases.
[bang]

Note to self: Always check for chisel marks on the crankcase of a used Monster.

dropstharockalot

#3
June 24, 2009, 08:58:42 AM
Quote from: dlearl476 on June 22, 2009, 09:00:12 AM
[bang]

Note to self: Always check for chisel marks on the crankcase of a used Monster.

Pfft... chisel marks.  You should be worried about whether I'm removing the nut with my .223 or .308...
'96 M900
Stage One - K&N Pods- DynaCoils - Remus Ti Hi-mount pipes (dented) -Thrashed paint - dented tank - Oberon bar-ends

dropstharockalot

#4
June 29, 2009, 04:27:02 AM
OK, no more bad firearms or chisel jokes... two questions:

1) What's your recommended method for cleaning the screen?  I gave it a quick wash and any debris came free, but I get the feeling there is still a bit of fine grit in there... Compressed air? Soft brush?

2) My oil drain plug is in there like a bastard... I put the 10mm allen in it and got no movement whatsoever.  I think it was actually beginning to rotate in the hex head, so I backed off.  I wound up draining as much oil as I could through the screen hole (tipping the bike towards the right to get as much out as possible) and never did get the drain plug out.  Any suggestions for next time would be appreciated.

Thanks! 
'96 M900
Stage One - K&N Pods- DynaCoils - Remus Ti Hi-mount pipes (dented) -Thrashed paint - dented tank - Oberon bar-ends

Slide Panda

#5
June 29, 2009, 04:33:08 AM
1. Wash in Kerosene, and let dry - then gently with air if you really want to try hard.  The screen is pretty fragile, so be tander with the compressed air.

2.  You could try some valve grinding compound or similar grippy/gritty paste on the allen to try to help bust to loose.  LT Snyder actually talks about stuck drain plugs in his manual - if they are really stuck, you might be looking at notching the plug face w/ a dremel and then actually doing the chisel thing.
-Throttle's on the right, so are the brakes.  Good luck.
- '00 M900S with all the farkles
- '08 KTM 690 StupidMoto
- '07 Triumph 675 Track bike.

ducpainter

#6
June 29, 2009, 05:12:39 PM
I pound the allen in with a hammer before turning.
"Once you accept that a child on the autistic spectrum experiences the world in
 a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
"Don't piss off old people The older we get, the less 'Life in Prison' is a deterrent."


Slide Panda

#7
June 29, 2009, 06:00:22 PM
That's what she said...  ;D

Sorry - could not resist that one
-Throttle's on the right, so are the brakes.  Good luck.
- '00 M900S with all the farkles
- '08 KTM 690 StupidMoto
- '07 Triumph 675 Track bike.

ducpainter

#8
June 29, 2009, 06:08:06 PM
Quote from: yuu on June 29, 2009, 06:00:22 PM
That's what she said...  ;D

Sorry - could not resist that one
Understood.

an opportunity should not be wasted. ;D
"Once you accept that a child on the autistic spectrum experiences the world in
 a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
"Don't piss off old people The older we get, the less 'Life in Prison' is a deterrent."


cyrus buelton

#9
June 30, 2009, 07:13:50 AM
how about some sort of breaker bar?

I have a copper pipe in my garage that I have used before.
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dropstharockalot

#10
June 30, 2009, 09:09:37 AM
Cyrus, are you suggesting that I use the pipe for leverage on the wrench?  'Cuz the wrench was slipping pretty good, and more leverage would likely have just accelerated the damage to the plug...

If there's a super-secret DMF application of that pipe that I'm not aware of, someone please teach me the handshake.

Thx!
'96 M900
Stage One - K&N Pods- DynaCoils - Remus Ti Hi-mount pipes (dented) -Thrashed paint - dented tank - Oberon bar-ends

bobwithboobs

#11
June 30, 2009, 04:52:28 PM
try and match a "easy out" screw extractor .   you might get lucky..    Snap on makes a realy nice one or you can get one a craftsman that works pretty well for a couple of uses.   if all fails and you dont want to chissel it or drill.. Weld it!  lol  just get sumone or yourself and weld that allen key in . :)

ducpainter

#12
June 30, 2009, 05:29:11 PM
Quote from: bobwithboobs on June 30, 2009, 04:52:28 PM
try and match a "easy out" screw extractor .   you might get lucky..    Snap on makes a realy nice one or you can get one a craftsman that works pretty well for a couple of uses.   if all fails and you dont want to chissel it or drill.. Weld it!  lol  just get sumone or yourself and weld that allen key in . :)
The plug is brass.

Brazing an allen in there might work.
"Once you accept that a child on the autistic spectrum experiences the world in
 a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
"Don't piss off old people The older we get, the less 'Life in Prison' is a deterrent."


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