Michael Jackson Dies

[Scottish]

those who are pulling their pants down and shitting on those who grieve here, the point is to allow those who feel sad to feel so. instead you are stepping on it, making it worse. its not all about respect for MJ but respect for those who are reflecting his music and inspired but his charity work.




Michael Jackson is a true humanitarian, an example to us all. He has devoted much time and money to a wide range of charities. He loves children and takes time out when touring secretly visting sick children. He also has special rooms at his home Neverland for sick and terminally ill children to stay over. He was listed in the 2000 edition of the Guiness Book Of World Records for breaking the world record for the "Most Charities Supported By a Pop Star". It states that Michael Jackson has supported 39 charity organizations either with monetary donations through sponsorships of their projects or by participating in their silent auction.

We have made an alphabetical list of known charities that Michael Jackson has individualy supported publically throughout his career. Michael Jackson also helped set up Heal The World Foundation, the charities this has supported have not been listed. Read our Heal The World/kids page for details of this foundation.

    * AIDS Project L.A.
    * American Cancer Society
    * Angel Food
    * Big Brothers of Greater Los Angeles
    * BMI Foundation, Inc.
    * Brotherhood Crusade
    * Brothman Burn Center
    * Camp Ronald McDonald
    * Childhelp U.S.A.
    * Children's Institute International
    * Cities and Schools Scholarship Fund
    * Community Youth Sports & Arts Foundation
    * Congressional Black Caucus (CBC)
    * Dakar Foundation
    * Dreamstreet Kids
    * Dreams Come True Charity
    * Elizabeth Taylor Aids Foundation
    * Juvenile Diabetes Foundation
    * Love Match
    * Make-A-Wish Foundation
    * Minority Aids Project
    * Motown Museum
    * NAACP
    * National Rainbow Coalition
    * Rotary Club of Australia
    * Society of Singers
    * Starlight Foundation
    * The Carter Center's Atlanta Project
    * The Sickle Cell Research Foundation
    * Transafrica
    * United Negro College Fund (UNCF)
    * United Negro College Fund Ladder's of Hope
    * Volunteers of America
    * Watts Summer Festival
    * Wish Granting
    * YMCA - 28th Street/Crenshaw

He is also the visionary behind WE ARE THE WORLD, cowrote it with Lionel Ritchie.

If you've ever worked in a volunteer origanization you'll see this same personality type. Trying to sooth the guilt. The guy was a pedo. He hadn't made good music in 2 decades. Scarred numerious children. The world is better now than it was yesterday. Grieve for his victims. Emotions better spent.

[Grampa]

my take


The man had talent but a genius he was not.

The boy lived a weird life and when he became a man the weird oozed back out.

I feel bad for his family, his real friends and his children (even if he did buy them)

None of us know for certain if he was a true pedophile, I but I can say without a doubt, I'd never let my kids have a sleepover at neverland ranch and anyone who did.... wanted something out of it, be it money or a shot of fame.

I find it sad that people the world round are making this the spectacle it is....... dying broke and having Corey Feldman sing my praises on the morning news is not how I wanna go out.  I want more.

[That Nice Guy Beck!]

If you've ever worked in a volunteer origanization you'll see this same personality type. Trying to sooth the guilt. The guy was a pedo. He hadn't made good music in 2 decades. Scarred numerious children. The world is better now than it was yesterday. Grieve for his victims. Emotions better spent.

his victims wanted CASH.
they were not victims.

[Grampa]

his victims wanted CASH.
they were not victims.

the children wanted to play... the parents wanted cash

[That Nice Guy Beck!]

the children wanted to play... the parents wanted cash

of course they did.
Michael had issues sure but he loved kids and helping kids, and he was set up plain and simple.
he may not be a genius to some but to me the guy is a legend an icon, nobody danced like that nobody had those beats/basslines and nobody touched the entire universe like he did. nobody.
was he weird? 100% but all artists are.

[Tiffers]

The most disturbing thing is the children could identify and describe what his penis looked like. Not sure how you could do that if you didn't see it. Sick sick sick man.

[That Nice Guy Beck!]

The most disturbing thing is the children could identify and describe what his penis looked like. Not sure how you could do that if you didn't see it. Sick sick sick man.

there is absolutely ZERO evidence that he has in fact molested anybody.  go watch the interviews from the jury in his last trial. EVERY SINGLE JUROR said there was no way MJ molested that boy. The kid was coached and the mother had absolutely no credibility. They were describing the way she was acting. All she cared about was the money. MJ missed out on his childhood. Caused him to act strangely when he was an adult. Missing out on your child doesn't mean your going to be a child molester. Please show me some concrete evidence. There's a reason why the guy didn't go to jail. The only reason why he paid off the first family is because he didn't want to deal with the public harassment. So then the next family thought this was the ticket and they obviously thought wrong. All of these parents were just after his money using their kids for bait.

[Statler]

OK, Beck, you've now opened this thread up to that discussion.  I was believing your position on perhaps letting this one go with your argument that it's for fans grieving, but thread is now open and fair game for all comments about Michael Jackson pro or con.


Have at it, folks.

Being in the system, I don't give a rat's ass what jurors say because I know what they get in terms of info in a trial.  I am biased in the negative because of what I do, but what I do also give me some insight into signs to look for.   People are not smart.   People do not go after every rich person and accuse them of being a pedophile for money.  People do not think "gee, he's got a personal amusement park, maybe he's a good target.'   There is a reason he was 'targeted' and others wealthy famous people were not, if you believe he was targeted.

I will never convince you he had a problem because he was your hero and for that I give him props...he inspired you and had an influence on who you are now.  cool.   you will never convince me he was not a sick man who preyed on those who could not protect themselves.  Fine.   Perhaps the world of good he did offsets what I believe.

Perhaps the discussion of his musical influence should be a separate one from his personal life, but that is, as we know, very difficult.

But this thread is open for business.    Chime in if you have an opinion good or bad..

[That Nice Guy Beck!]

OK, Beck, you've now opened this thread up to that discussion. 

I really don't care about what anyone says about his or her feelings towards MJ in this thread anymore to tell you the truth, because in the end millions of people feel exactly the same way I do about the man. There will never be another figure like him that's for sure and I am happy that he was around in my time. I will never forget my mom waking me up at midnight to see michael jackson do the moonwalk on the music awards show in 1982 - ever since then I was obsessed with the man... it's sad to be that famous but be so very lonely in the world.
did he molest those kids? who REALLY knows, not you not me. do I feel that he did? no absolutely not. This is bigger then princess diana passing The world will mourn this loss for days upon days and his funeral will be that one of A KING.

here is that performance. no one will ever come close to his level.

Michael Jackson - Billie Jean (1983) [Motown 25 Live]

[Grampa]

I'll take a Gene Kelly over a MJ anyday 

Gene Kelly tap dancing on roller skates

[That Nice Guy Beck!]

I'll take a Gene Kelly over a MJ anyday 

Gene Kelly tap dancing on roller skates

gene kelly was the man as well and if I was old or older because now im getting old gene kelly would be my thing. gen x's thing is MJ.

[Grampa]

Mr Kelly died with his nose and reputation intact

[Rufus120]

Just because he didn't get caught doesn't mean he didn't do it......

[That Nice Guy Beck!]

Mr Kelly died with his nose and reputation intact

yea but the whole universe didn't adore him. 
well maybe the 70 + but they also enjoyed;

Puff the Magic Dragon - Peter Paul & Mary Live

[Statler]

My child's heroes will not be those who want so desperately to not be themselves that they physically desecrate their own bodies.

My child's heroes will not be those who build shrines dedicated to an obsession to not growing up and prevent all access to it by the public, making it creepy and suspicious.  (which is different than being playfull and young at heart).

My child will still appreciate music and arts.

At least that is what I will discuss with her.