Tips on painting my pipes?

Started by eesnas, June 26, 2009, 06:17:40 AM

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eesnas

Here's the look I want:


Basically, the paint on the pipes in the pic was perfect looking, exactly what I wanted but it was also very soft, my helmet just touching one when hanging it from my under-seat strap made an easily noticeable shiney mark and some chemicals when cleaning ate at the finish a bit and also created weird shiney spots where it dripped. Right now for reasons beyond my control the bike is in storage and the cans are on a shelf, to the touch the paint on the cans still will leave black residue all over my hands if I pick them up.

I like the enamel casing and durability of semi-gloss but for these pipes I simply must have flat black. The paint used last time was Plasti-Koat (I think), I believe I need something that will create more of a shell and will not be soft. I will also need to remove my header to repaint that. I need to mask off the rivvets and ends of the pipes, I also assume I need to scuff them a bit. If I need to strip the pipes down to bear metal I am tempted to scrap the entire project and just buy Termis.

Any general advice? Reccomendations for good paint? Would I be smarted to take these somewhere to get powdercoated instead? I want a durable flat black finish, I also need to figure a smart way to mask the rivvets and the ends. Any tips would be greatly appreciated, I might try to tackle this over the weekend.  [thumbsup]

ProTeal55

Dupli-Color low gloss engine enamel, or take the pipes off and have them ceramic coated..
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eesnas

Quote from: ProTeal55 on June 26, 2009, 06:22:35 AM
Dupli-Color low gloss engine enamel, or take the pipes off and have them ceramic coated..

even the low gloss is too much shine... do they make a flat that will hold up just as well?

Cicero

I'm with pro teal, I would pay the 80 bucks to have em ceramic coated. I had flat for about 2 days, it kept scuffing.

booger

You could try a product by Rust-Oleum called Hi-Temp Grill Paint. However since they are already painted you would have to do some scuffing of the existing finish, followed by thorough cleaning with soap and isopropyl alcohol. Prep is as important for a tough, even finish as the type of coating itself. I used this product, was very careful with prep and applied it in 5 or 6 light coats, waiting until good and dry and rubbing with a fast food napkin between coats to remove loose particles. The finish is durable and uniform. However, it will not be as durable and uniform as ceramic. I only painted the stock aluminum muffler enclosures, the rest of my exhaust is ceramic coated. I recommend for your satisfaction that you pack up your exhaust and send it to a ceramic coater. For steel, ceramic is the only thing that will adhere properly and not flake off.
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ProTeal55

Not saying I am an expert by any means, but I have painted my share of pipes with everything you can think of. No matter how good you prep, the type of paint you use, etc it always flakes/comes off..

Do yourself a favour and spend the cash up front and have them professionally ceramic coated. You can pick your finish, color, and then u dont have to worry about the finish coming off down the road...
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eesnas

agreed... I am not a pro painter so I will pay and let the pro's do it right, ceramic the same as powdercoating?

I ask because I have a place that will powdercoat, I am just not sure if that is the same thing as ceramic... I need to call them sometime this afternoon...

Thanks!

NAKID

I painted my original header pipes and udder on my 05 S2R800 Dark with a flat black BBQ grill paint. Probably about 2-3 coats and it never flaked...
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Speedbag

Got a John Deere dealer nearby? They sell an exhaust stack paint that is awesome. It goes on sort of semi-gloss black, but once heat-cured it goes flat black and is extremely durable. I've used it on headers and other various exhaust pipes many times.
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Cicero

Quote from: eesnas on June 26, 2009, 09:04:58 AM
agreed... I am not a pro painter so I will pay and let the pro's do it right, ceramic the same as powdercoating?

I ask because I have a place that will powdercoat, I am just not sure if that is the same thing as ceramic... I need to call them sometime this afternoon...

Thanks!

No it is not the same. Ceramic coating  is much more heat resistant. On the cans you could get away with PC but ceramic is better.


He Man

you can PC the cans, they dont get that hot. its a cheaper route.

however as NAKID said, i spray paitned mine and it hasnt chipped.... you just have to make sure you let it cure for 24 hours then bake it in the oven @400 for ~1 hour before you put it on your bike. (your exahust cans will never get to 400 on the bike)

red baron

#11
Use House of Kolor HH04

The shit will last as long as jet hot just follow the directions to the letter.


ps, any rubbing on a flat finish will make it glossy.
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booger

#13
Quote from: ProTeal55 on June 26, 2009, 07:22:32 AM
Not saying I am an expert by any means, but I have painted my share of pipes with everything you can think of. No matter how good you prep, the type of paint you use, etc it always flakes/comes off..

no flaking at all on the mufflers...although the mufflers don't see as many small rocks or as high temps...ceramic still my top recommendation

Quote from: trouble on June 26, 2009, 05:32:51 PM
ps, any rubbing on a flat finish will make it glossy.


this has not been my experience...

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dlearl476

#14
Quote from: ProTeal55 on June 26, 2009, 07:22:32 AM

Do yourself a favour and spend the cash up front and have them professionally ceramic coated. You can pick your finish, color, and then u dont have to worry about the finish coming off down the road...

+1

Best $80 I've spent on the Monster so far.