New Competition for the F-22

Monster Dave · July 08, 2009, 08:26:39 AM

Meet Russia's conceptual replacement for the MIG-29 and SU-27:

SUKHOI PAK FA:

Should we be concerned?

NAKID · July 08, 2009, 08:32:51 AM

If it's only a Concept, I say we have nothing to worry about...

Drjones · July 08, 2009, 08:54:31 AM

Looks like the stolen F22 plans have finally been analized.

Worried? Depends on if China has any plans to expand their empire or not as they're the only ones with the wherewithall to effectively deploy such an aircraft.

spolic · July 08, 2009, 09:59:22 AM

Clint Eastwood is going to fly it back to America! boo yeah!

Monster Dave · July 08, 2009, 10:01:58 AM

It does seem to share some similarities with this model by Testors from the 80's though:

NAKID · July 08, 2009, 10:08:08 AM

I thought the Stealth fighter was the F-117?

Kopfjäger · July 08, 2009, 10:13:33 AM

Quote from: NAKID on July 08, 2009, 10:08:08 AM
I thought the Stealth fighter was the F-117?

You are correct Sir.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-19

Grampa · July 08, 2009, 10:33:10 AM

Quote from: Monster Dave on July 08, 2009, 08:26:39 AM

Should we be concerned?

only if North Korea has purchased a few

ducatiz · July 08, 2009, 10:36:46 AM

Quote from: Drjones on July 08, 2009, 08:54:31 AM
Looks like the stolen F22 plans have finally been analized.

someone assraped the F-22 blueprints?

cyrus buelton · July 08, 2009, 11:44:37 AM

Don't the mig engines need to be rebuilt all the time?

River · July 08, 2009, 12:16:01 PM

Quote from: cyrus buelton on July 08, 2009, 11:44:37 AM
Don't the mig engines need to be rebuilt all the time?

It depends. If you ever read "Mig Pilot" by John Barron, the author recounts the story of one Lt. Belenko who decided to escape Russia in his trusty Mig-25. The Lt. talks about the quality of Russian millitary hardware--looks scary but is fairly unreliable.

The flip side of the coin is that the SU-27 and Mig-29 had a much better maintenance record, in spite of a freak crash by a Mig-29 at the Paris Airshow in 1989.

Who knows? This model may be better given recent changes over there. But I'm with some of the other folks: more worried about China and N. Korea at this point.

Monster Dave · July 08, 2009, 12:27:42 PM

Quote from: ducatiz-e on July 08, 2009, 10:36:46 AM
someone assraped the F-22 blueprints?

Not the F-22s but the F35's prints were snatched up by some cleaver hacker.

Kopfjäger · July 08, 2009, 12:31:41 PM

They can have all the pictures and blueprints they want.

They will never have "our" Pilots.

Monster Dave · July 08, 2009, 12:33:50 PM

Quote from: kopfjager on July 08, 2009, 12:31:41 PM
They can have all the pictures and blueprints they want.

They will never have "our" Pilots.

True

DCXCV · July 08, 2009, 12:52:35 PM

Quote from: Monster Dave on July 08, 2009, 10:01:58 AM
It does seem to share some similarities with this model by Testors from the 80's though:

I remember I had a Micro Machines version of that plane and also this one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sukhoi_Su-47

which, according to the mighty Wiki was one of the two precursors to the Sukhoi PAK FA.

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