Americas Cup

[herm]

It's called 'one design' racing and it's very popular.   Fleets of boats all build the same.  First one to the finish line wins and they all start together.   Different than the AC, which is now intentionally a design challenge.

fleets of different boats get handicapped and handicapped racing can be fun too.  You may beat me on the course, but you may owe me a certain number of seconds per mile, so I may correct out to win.

match racing, like the AC, is most interesting as one design, as the boats are the same.  The tactics are different as there's only one other boat to beat so getting them to be penalized and exercising right of way to push them past the proper course come into play.   I think in this Americas Cup there will be bigger speed differences between the boats so the racing itself will be exciting only because of the incredible machines....not because of the closeness.  (the cup where Stars and Stripes was a cat was not exactly good racing but it was a cool race none the less).


Race should be in February absent Court drama.

personally, i find anything other than 1 design to be too alien to be considered a "race." i grew up racing in this 1 design on the coast of maine. note the americas cup pedegree/connection if you're sharp enough.

that and lasers.

cats where fun too, but never raced them.

[Statler]

Where will it be held this year?

good question and one the challenger would like to know.   Announcement has to come in August (six months prior to match) or this'll go back to Court.   Venue must be in Southern Hemisphere or it's going back to Court.   Valencia was possible but now it looks like an Arab country possible as defender wants flat water and light winds.

[Statler]

Burgess was involved with J-class boats, yes?

same Burgess?


edit:  yup...his dad.

[Porsche Monkey]

personally, i find anything other than 1 design to be too alien to be considered a "race." i grew up racing in this 1 design on the coast of maine. note the americas cup pedegree/connection if you're sharp enough.

that and lasers.

cats where fun too, but never raced them.

Almost looks like a mini 12 meter.

[cyrus buelton]

There is a pretty big racing MC fleet here in Columbus.


Those guys are really serious about it.

[Airborne]

I've done all kinds of boating and I have to say match racing was some of the best fun I've had on the water. If you havn't done it, give it a try.

[cyrus buelton]

I used to sort of race butterfly's back when I was a kid.

It was at a local yacht club in southern michigan.


I never really enjoyed it, always thought it was more enjoyable just going out for an afternoon sail

[superjohn]

It's called 'one design' racing and it's very popular.   Fleets of boats all build the same.  First one to the finish line wins and they all start together.   Different than the AC, which is now intentionally a design challenge.

fleets of different boats get handicapped and handicapped racing can be fun too.  You may beat me on the course, but you may owe me a certain number of seconds per mile, so I may correct out to win.

match racing, like the AC, is most interesting as one design, as the boats are the same.  The tactics are different as there's only one other boat to beat so getting them to be penalized and exercising right of way to push them past the proper course come into play.   I think in this Americas Cup there will be bigger speed differences between the boats so the racing itself will be exciting only because of the incredible machines....not because of the closeness.  (the cup where Stars and Stripes was a cat was not exactly good racing but it was a cool race none the less).


Race should be in February absent Court drama.

So, like F1 compared to Indycar.

[herm]

Burgess was involved with J-class boats, yes?

same Burgess?


edit:  yup...his dad.

actually, both the Enterprise (1930) and the Ranger (1937) where designed by Starling Burgess. the Ranger was built in the shipyard near where i grew up in Maine. in between, he designed the small point 1 design, first built in 1935.

[Statler]

different bows on the amas of the challenger's trimaran.  wave piercing.  many smaller racing multihulls (think hobiecat) and a couple giant cruising cats are going this way.

[Statler]

[herm]

that second picture looks like WAY too much fun

[Popeye the Sailor]

Those boats are all silly. Ya can't fish off a one of 'em.

[herm]

yeah, but jaws wouldnt catch you either...

[Popeye the Sailor]

yeah, but jaws wouldnt catch you either...

Good point.

Those boats are no good for fishin' or sharkin'