Why should i have to pay for your convience?

[He Man]

Why do sellers have to pay a fee to accept paypal when its a buyers convenience?

I refuse to have to pay for

1. Insertion fee
2. Initial price fee
3. Final Value fee
4. Paypal fee (owned by ebay, so you might as well tack it as a ebay fee)

Ofcourse ebay has come out wiht a new 5 fee items a month. but for the times i list more than 5 items. yea...no thank you.

AFAIK, i looked through all of ebays rules. there is none about a seller charging a buyer to pay for paypal fees. Just like a store can refuse to accept a credit card payment for anything under a certain amount because they lose a lot of money on those type of items since its mostly what they sell.

ridiculous ebay fees, great for buyers a nightmare for sellers.

[NAKID]

For larger sums of money, I usually pass the charges onto the buyer.

[He Man]

i pass the charges on for anyone unless i know them. its a very minor fee, it isnt going to kill me. but it does piss me off that ebay is always trying to find ways to take your money for the smallest things. like a god damn ferengi.

[Bun-bun]

like a god damn ferengi.

[laugh]GEEK ALERT!

[He Man]

Geek? me? whos the one who noticed it? 

[Kopfjäger]

[laugh]GEEK ALERT!

[Popeye the Sailor]

Just like a store can refuse to accept a credit card payment for anything under a certain amount because they lose a lot of money on those type of items since its mostly what they sell.

AFAIK, they aren't allowed to legally do that. It violates their terms of service with the CC companies.


Doesn't mean they won't do it.

[derby]

Why do sellers have to pay a fee to accept paypal when its a buyers convenience?

well, it's for the seller's convenience, as well. if you had a storefront, you'd pay your bank a processing fee for taking credit cards. same thing.

AFAIK, i looked through all of ebays rules. there is none about a seller charging a buyer to pay for paypal fees. Just like a store can refuse to accept a credit card payment for anything under a certain amount because they lose a lot of money on those type of items since its mostly what they sell.

iirc, it's against paypal's TOS to charge them for the fee.

http://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=p/gen/terms-outside#receiving_payments

5. No Surcharges. Under Visa, MasterCard, Discover and American Express regulations and the laws of several states, including California, merchants may not charge a fee to the buyer for accepting credit card payments (often called a "surcharge"). You agree that you will not impose a surcharge or any other fee for accepting PayPal as payment. This restriction does not prevent you from imposing a handling fee in connection with the sale of goods or services, as long as the handling fee does not operate as a surcharge (in other words, the handling fee for transactions paid through PayPal may not be higher than the handling fee for transactions paid through other payment methods). Nor does this restriction apply to Pound-denominated transactions by sellers residing in the United Kingdom listing items for sale on a UK-based website.

[He Man]

AFAIK, thats only if you own and operate a store front. You cant go up to  a garage sale and expect them to take credit cards.  Im not a buisness, I'm just a guy thats forced into using thier stupid system,  they can try and cite all the legallity of it all, but a credit card is not considered legal tender.

I'm sure theres stacks of law suits against ebay and paypal for this very reason.

[derby]

AFAIK, thats only if you own and operate a store front. You cant go up to  a garage sale and expect them to take credit cards. 

i don't expect it, but i have seen somebody at a garage sale using paypal as a credit card processor.

Im not a buisness, I'm just a guy thats forced into using thier stupid system...

you're not forced... you can just as easily ask your buyer to mail you a check. of course, the postal service is going to charge one of you guys a minimum $0.44 convenience fee.

[He Man]

you know, you make up a good point in postage. the person sending the letter, pays for the postage as a fee for someone else delivering for you. Paypal delivers the money on behalf of the buyer, WHY DOES THE SELLER NEED TO PAY FOR IT???

It really makes no sense.

[Bun-bun]

sense may it not make, young jedi, but live with it you must.















If it helps ease your mind(and I know it won't) IMO, buyers are willing to pay more for the convenience of using a pay service like paypal, so auctions with paypal tend to make more money.

[redxblack]

Just raise your prices 3% on buy it now listings.

[Kopfjäger]

sense may it not make, young jedi, but live with it you must.

  You're killing me.

[Schmitty]

I too refuse to pay the insertion fee...and therefore there has been no insertion lately...