Termignoni Exhaust - Justification

[El Matador]

exactly EM, which is why i think its a total rip to pay for something thats only useful in one configuration!
better to get a pc  and have a dyno guy remap it everytime you change something fundamental about the bike

but of course everyone in the thread is correct, you DO have to do SOMETHING to change the afr once u start messing with airflow 

Yeah, but the problem is that the stock ECU in the 06+ bike has sensor (emissions IIRC) that prevents you from modifying the map at all, and you cant change the ECU unless you get another from ducati because of the immobilizer issue. The DP Ecu does not have it, which in turn does allow for the adding of a PCIII.

It is a rip off, but there really is nothing you can do.

[redial]

oooooooooh

i totally understand now. i have a 2002 and didnt know about the 02 sensors. what a drag!

[teddy037.2]

another option for the closed-loop crowd is that fatduc manipilator... seems to do the trick, while being cheaper than going DP ECU.  IIRC it fools the O2 sensor

The kicker in this equation is that you need the DP ecu to be able to run a PCIII or what-have-you.  You cannot use a power commander with the stock ecu.

I have a PCIII and stock ECU

oooooooooh

i totally understand now. i have a 2002 and didnt know about the 02 sensors. what a drag!

you don't have an O2 sensor. mod away!

[ghostface]

Dude just wait until some one sells theirs used. The prices from Ducati  are rediculous for a sub-par performance upgrade.

I found me a titanium full system (cans only) for $600 brand new from a dealer getting rid of old stock.

[DRKWNG]

I have a PCIII and stock ECU

Yea, but your bike is not one of the E3 compliant models, and was released before the closed loop debacle came about. 

[teddy037.2]

Yea, but your bike is not one of the E3 compliant models, and was released before the closed loop debacle came about. 

OP never said what bike, and redial has an open loop

[El Matador]

OP has a 696

[teddy037.2]

OP has a 696

I missed that?

well, I do suppose the "will this void my warranty" is kind of a kicker, anyway.

[FastAndLight]

For what its worth, I went the Zard route for exhaust, had MonsterMash re-flash my ECU, and ended up getting a power commander anyway.  All to develop about the same HP as stock.  I also spent about twice the price of the termi full system.

Looking back on it, if you like the look of the termis, then definitely go that way.

[teddy037.2]

OE numbers are often from the crank, not rear wheel.

after intake/exhaust/PCIII my 620 put out at the wheel what ducati claimed as stock hp/tq