Cruise Ship Impales Whale

Started by cyrus buelton, July 28, 2009, 04:54:23 AM

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Quote from: shyster on July 28, 2009, 05:58:23 AM
I find it funny, but my cultural programming tells me to be sad.



I thought the samething when I heard it on ManCow this morning.




What is this show you guys speak?

Is it a group that goes after the japanese "researchers" to deter them from whaling?
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Quote from: cyrus buelton on July 28, 2009, 07:59:20 AM
I thought the samething when I heard it on ManCow this morning.




What is this show you guys speak?

Is it a group that goes after the japanese "researchers" to deter them from whaling?

it's a show about an irresponsible idiot captain using half thought methods to stop whaling.
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Stupid whale getting in the way. Isn't it easier for it to move away rather than raming into the ship?
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Quote from: duccarlos on July 28, 2009, 08:12:25 AM
Stupid whale getting in the way. Isn't it easier for it to move away rather than raming into the ship?

Who are you to judge that poor whale?

Maybe its life had become unbearable after his whale gf left him for a blue whale. Maybe she took the kids with her. Maybe the economy had wiped out its retirement funds. Maybe its lifelong dream was to become lamp oil.

;)

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Quote from: Pakhan on July 28, 2009, 08:05:23 AM
it's a show about an irresponsible idiot captain using half thought methods to stop whaling.

this describes every reality show that ends in '...Wars'

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Quote from: JEFF_H on July 28, 2009, 08:22:02 AM
this describes every reality show that ends in '...Wars'

Junkyard wars?  ;D
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Quote from: El Matador on July 28, 2009, 08:15:42 AM
Who are you to judge that poor whale?

Maybe its life had become unbearable after his whale gf left him for a blue whale. Maybe she took the kids with her. Maybe the economy had wiped out its retirement funds. Maybe its lifelong dream was to become lamp oil.

;)


Maybe it had a small whale penis.
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Quote from: El Matador on July 28, 2009, 08:15:42 AM
Who are you to judge that poor whale?

Maybe its life had become unbearable after his whale gf left him for a blue whale. Maybe she took the kids with her. Maybe the economy had wiped out its retirement funds. Maybe its lifelong dream was to become lamp oil.

He was no longer worthy of Vegas.


redxblack

Sea Shepherd interferes with whalers to enforce the international ban on hunting marine mammals. The Japanese commercial whalers collect a quota of Minke and Fin wales, but they claim they are taking scientific tissue samples and selling the rest.

Watson is a controversial figure, no doubt. I'm not really a fan of the show because it has a lot of the "reality tv" cliches. Even if people end up hating Sea Shepherd because of the tv show, they still have to consider commercial whaling for a few minutes. I don't think that's a bad thing.

Currently there are only 3 countries who hunt whales in defiance of the international ban on commercial whaling. Sea Shepherd isn't ONLY focused on the whalers. They've also been active in trying to eliminate the practice of finning sharks, interfering with the Canadian seal hunts and general protection of marine environments.

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Quote from: redxblack on July 28, 2009, 08:47:26 AM
Sea Shepherd interferes with whalers to enforce the international ban on hunting marine mammals. The Japanese commercial whalers collect a quota of Minke and Fin wales, but they claim they are taking scientific tissue samples and selling the rest.

Watson is a controversial figure, no doubt. I'm not really a fan of the show because it has a lot of the "reality tv" cliches. Even if people end up hating Sea Shepherd because of the tv show, they still have to consider commercial whaling for a few minutes. I don't think that's a bad thing.

Currently there are only 3 countries who hunt whales in defiance of the international ban on commercial whaling. Sea Shepherd isn't ONLY focused on the whalers. They've also been active in trying to eliminate the practice of finning sharks, interfering with the Canadian seal hunts and general protection of marine environments.

I have no issue with the cause, but I stand by my feelings about him and the methods.

As far as bringing attention to the issue, having this as the messenger to the public is IMHO counter productive.  I have a feeling the flounders are watching this whale so that's the last I'm saying about this.  [beer]
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I think Watson would be fine with you and millions of others disliking him, so long as you agreed with the cause. In fact, it might be a bigger win if you STRONGLY agreed (as did others who dislike him) and felt that the better way to combat commercial whaling would be through nation state diplomacy. If people put pressure on their governments to stop commercial whaling, Watson could happily retire and everyone wins. In a way, disliking Watson might be very productive. I support his group, but I think he's an arrogant and annoying person.

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ducatiz

Quote from: redxblack on July 28, 2009, 08:47:26 AM
Currently there are only 3 countries who hunt whales in defiance of the international ban on commercial whaling. Sea Shepherd isn't ONLY focused on the whalers. They've also been active in trying to eliminate the practice of finning sharks, interfering with the Canadian seal hunts and general protection of marine environments.


The so-called "international ban" is a voluntary ban (moratorium).  no one country has the power to enforce its law on another country (it's called "comity"), except by force. 

That being said, it's stupid to hunt something into extinction, it seems we could come up with some whale farming methods, just like we have for plenty of animals (including fish)

QuoteThe International Whaling Commission is a voluntary international organisation and is not backed up by treaty. Therefore, the IWC, in essence, is a voluntary organisation which has substantial practical limitations on its authority. First, any member countries are free to simply leave the organisation and declare themselves not bound by it if they so wish. Second, any member state may opt out of any specific IWC regulation by lodging a formal objection to it within 90 days of the regulation coming into force[19] (such provisions are common in international agreements, on the logic that it is preferable to have parties remain within the agreements than opt out altogether). Third, the IWC has no ability to enforce any of its decisions through penalty imposition.
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