Business major doesn't understand money.

[Drjones]

Wonder's if she's related to this person  Grad Sues College for $70,000 Because She Can't Find a Job

Gee, I wonder why she hasn't found a job yet.    Freaking lazy assed generation.

[Vindingo]

Gee, I wonder why she hasn't found a job yet.    Freaking lazy assed generation.

It's funny how all of you "old" people bag on this generation for being lazy cry babies...  who the hell do you think raised them to be this way?  Which generation got us into this current economic mess that we are in?  I bet it wasn't these lazy assed people you speak of. 

This sense of entitlement and lazy attitude of my generation is only present because it was given to us them.  She probably didn't hold a gun to their heads when asking to co-sign the loans.  They could have said no.  It is the family's burden now, because they couldn't say "NO".  She obviously has more issues than just her loans.

Maybe the American dream lie that college = better life and a job for everyone, is starting to become apparent.     

[Speedbag]

Maybe the American dream lie that college = better life and a job for everyone, is starting to become apparent.     

Pretty sure a friend of mine with a 'lowly' tech school degree makes more than this enginerd. 

[JBubble]

It's funny how all of you "old" people bag on this generation for being lazy cry babies...  who the hell do you think raised them to be this way?  Which generation got us into this current economic mess that we are in?  I bet it wasn't these lazy assed people you speak of. 

This sense of entitlement and lazy attitude of my generation is only present because it was given to us them.  She probably didn't hold a gun to their heads when asking to co-sign the loans.  They could have said no.  It is the family's burden now, because they couldn't say "NO".  She obviously has more issues than just her loans.

Maybe the American dream lie that college = better life and a job for everyone, is starting to become apparent.     

+1

[cyrus buelton]

Maybe the American dream lie that college = better life and a job for everyone, is starting to become apparent.     

I've always felt this way.

not everyone is cut out to attend college and that is not a bad thing. It is of no interest to them.


Forcing people to go to college (like we do through legislation with $$$ for everyone) is not right and more people make the beast with two backs around and drop out, wasting money.

All I can ever remember growing up is you go to grade school, middle school, high school, college, and then you work. College was never not an option. It was demanded.

I asked my Mom a few years ago if I decided I wasnt interested in college and just entered the workforce, what would you say?


She said they'd support me.

I have a hard time believing that.

[redxblack]

I didn't start college until I was 24. I think I was a better student for it as I understood the world a bit better than most of my classmates.

[erkishhorde]

I agree with you CB. College is pretty much a requirement now for many jobs even though it's not actually necessary. Hell, I was looking at jobs at Blizzard. Night shift game testers need a college degree.  I know Blizzard is hot shit and all that and they make great games but since when does it take a college degree to play StarCraft? I've noticed more than a few of the structural engineering firms in the LA area starting to require master's degrees. I don't see the work as having gotten any harder. Maybe the BS programs have gotten easier now though. It was expected that I graduate high school. It was expected that I graduate college. Neither was anything special for me. It was just something I was supposed to do. It's kinda like getting your driving license. It's a gimme if you put in a bit of effort, you just have to wait for it sometimes.

make the beast with two backs, when I talk to most of the OLD guys in the field they don't even do proper calcs any more. It's all, "I expect to see something close to this, run the numbers and if it is, great, if it isn't do it again until it does." Well, how do you know that it's supposed to be X? "I just do from experience."  Mr. Omnipotent here can pull numbers out of his ass to make a building stand up. That's reassuring.  Laugh, but I know there are some people that actually do engineer that way. Luckily they don't do it on the big stuff but for little things, you can be sure they aren't wasting their time. If I need to learn to be psychic and pull numbers out of my butt to engineer by feel, why are you making me waste more time in school learning theory instead of letting me get the experience to be Mr. Omnipotent as well so that I can be useful? I know I sure as heck didn't get a feel for what the numbers were supposed to be in school.

[Triple J]

I've noticed more than a few of the structural engineering firms in the LA area starting to require master's degrees. I don't see the work as having gotten any harder. Maybe the BS programs have gotten easier now though.

make the beast with two backs, when I talk to most of the OLD guys in the field they don't even do proper calcs any more. It's all, "I expect to see something close to this, run the numbers and if it is, great, if it isn't do it again until it does." Well, how do you know that it's supposed to be X? "I just do from experience."  Mr. Omnipotent here can pull numbers out of his ass to make a building stand up. That's reassuring. 

Engineering firms require Masters Degrees because they can...particularly in big cities...and especially with the economic climate like it is now. Most of our engineers, either geotech or structural, have MS degrees. Lots of competition.

You shouldn't make too much fun of "Mr. Omnipotent". A good engineer knows the answer before he/she even starts to do a calculation. A lot can be said for experience. Also, the "old guys" are usually high dollar...as in they make too much money to do routine calculations (i.e. their time spent would kill a budget). That's what staff engineers are for...do the calcs that prove what they already know/suspect.

A perfect example of this from the aerospace industry (Skunkworks): Ben Rich (young guy) was doing calculations for the F-105 Starfighter's jet intake inlets (I think this was the plane). Kelley Johnson (old guy) asks how it is going, and Ben shows him the dimensions and says it is as small as he can get it. Kelley says keep looking at it...it can be 20% smaller. Ben thinks, no make the beast with two backsing way. Turns out Kelley was right...Ben got it 20% smaller with a bit more work. 

[cyrus buelton]

the one masters degree that has turned into a joke is the MBA. Only seems to be relevant if you went to a top program but yet every tom dick and harry has one anymore, so the value of it has decreased. I can't rationalize the money at this point.




I've never figured out why people get a masters degree to teach First Grade. Yes, I know because of the pay grade, but really a masters for 1st Grader's? I am not knocking being a teacher (my sis in law is one and we've breached this topic) just don't think it would require a Master's

[Vindingo]

 

I've noticed more than a few of the structural engineering firms in the LA area starting to require master's degrees. I don't see the work as having gotten any harder. Maybe the BS programs have gotten easier now though. It was expected that I graduate high school. It was expected that I graduate college. Neither was anything special for me. It was just something I was supposed to do. It's kinda like getting your driving license. It's a gimme if you put in a bit of effort, you just have to wait for it sometimes.

It is the same thing with architecture.  I have a masters degree in architecture because it is becoming the standard to become a licensed architect.  If you don't get one, you have to apprentice longer to get your stamp.  Most of the arch jobs I have applied for were asking for people with MArchs. Like TripleJ said, because of the economy, they can...  You also have to know every single computer program, have 75 years of experience, been published in 3 languages and best of all be willing to work for $4.37/hr.   

Did I mention I work for myself now as a carpenter/handyman... and I am going back to school in September!  I hope to have a news article about my debt one day.   

[Triple J]

Another genius lawsuit 

http://blogs.moneycentral.msn.com/topstocks/?fpn=teen%20s%20lawsuit%20my%20kindle%20ate%20my%20homework

WTF is wrong with people. Suing over a book report. gawd damn. Just read it again you pansy...it's like a 150 pages.

[DCXCV]

Another genius lawsuit 

http://blogs.moneycentral.msn.com/topstocks/?fpn=teen%20s%20lawsuit%20my%20kindle%20ate%20my%20homework

WTF is wrong with people. Suing over a book report. gawd damn. Just read it again you pansy...it's like a 150 pages.

But it's hard to read through a whole book and retain that information long enough to write a book report. 

I long for the good old days, when things were simpler, when technology wasn't so fearsome, when you could listen to a book on tape and dictate your notes and insights on a micro cassette recorder. 

[Vindingo]

Justin Gawronski isn't going to get into a good school.  Well, I wouldn't want him attending my university for fear that he might sue the school for not getting a job...

[Howie]

Unfortunately, today you need a college degree to prove you can read, write and do arithmetic at what used to be the eight grade level.

[Popeye the Sailor]

Unfortunately, today you need a college degree to prove you can read, write and do arithmetic at what used to be the eight grade level.

I wasn't aware it proved any of that