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« on: August 07, 2009, 02:39:37 PM »

hi,

i'm in mod mode now Smiley so, i want to change the turning signals on my monster from the stock ones to something smaller. are there any good but affordable aftermarket turning signals out there? i found these on monsterparts.com. what are your opinions?

http://www.monsterparts.com/pc/266011/Electrical/266011.html

also, what is involved in installing a LED system? i found these on ebay and they are 12V. do i need to install any additional parts like a converter?

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Motorcycle-4x14-LED-Turn-Signal-Indicator-lights-12volt_W0QQitemZ160352959472QQihZ006QQcategoryZ32628QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

thanks!
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« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2009, 03:58:38 PM »

Not sure if this helps, but once you have found your LEDs - if you to that route - this might be of assistance...
Turn Signal Resistors

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« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2009, 06:26:11 PM »

I just recently installed the Rizoma Zero11 Led Indicators on my S2R 800, very happy with how they turned out.
Here's a link to the Topic, which has pictures of them installed.
http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=27275.0
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« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2009, 07:12:59 PM »

I just put the Kellerman's on. I'm a perfectionist to say the least so it took me about 6 hours. Everything was wired perfect then put in heat shrink tubing. Turned out real clean. I did hit quite a speed bump with the resistors though. I first tried them without (someone told me it would work fine) for the record it definitely did not. It was doing all sorts of weird things like the left side would blink at a normal rate then speed up and blink real quick, the right side would blink at a normal rate but the opposite side would still blink real dim (no matter which side was activated). Anyway I did a bit of research and got some resistors from radio shack (10 Watt 8ohm) and wired (and heat shrunk Smiley them in) and that cleared everything up. Note: I only had to put on per side, so naturally I put them in the tail. For the record this is on an 05 S2r 800. I'll put up pictures tomorrow. BTW the Kellerman's look AWESOME, I used to have rizoma's and these blow them out of the water. SUPER Bright too. Good luck in your choices, buit if you can afford the coin go with the Kellerman's.
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« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2009, 07:42:53 PM »

Kellerman's


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« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2009, 10:56:05 PM »

So, a resistor would be used to drop the voltage, correct?

Correct me if I'm wrong. If the LEDs run on 12v and the bike also runs 12v, wouldn't it work fine?
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« Reply #6 on: August 07, 2009, 11:15:03 PM »

Well here's the deal. The system is 12 volts sure. But if you look at the stock bulbs they are 10 watt. The led signals run on a MUCH lower wattage something in the 1-2.5w range (depending on the make). so what that does is drive the rest of the system haywire. No it will not work correctly. People told me the Kellerman's would work fine; they did anything but that. The resistor provides just that, some resistance in the system to bring it back to a normal level. Let me try to put this more clearly. Incandescent bulbs have a lot more resistance because of the filament. LED's have a lot less. This makes the signal/relay box do all sorts of weird things (none of which make sense). Like I said the left side would blink at a normal rate then speed up AND the right side would blink at the same time real dim. If I hit the right side it would blink at a normal "rate" but the left side would light up dim as well. Nothing made any sense. You introduce some resistance to the system and everything works normal again. If you want help with resistors I would be happy to help and go into more detail. If you add more Ohm's then I did you can get them to blink slower. All depends on what you're going for. I spent hours on this so I might as well share my knowledge. Hit me up if you have questions and I'll post pics tomorrow.
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« Reply #7 on: August 08, 2009, 06:26:10 AM »

This was helpful and a easy read:
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/turn-signal.htm

I think that ideally if you wanted a custom blink rate you could use a potentiometer (variable resistor) to acheive that rate, measure the resistance, buy the appropriate resistors (paying attention to power rating) and splice/integrate them into the harness. Thankfully, for those of us who are lazy, there are tons of aftermarket devices that fix this for under $20 shipped. Happy blinking!
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« Reply #8 on: August 08, 2009, 06:56:50 AM »

I like the Rizoma Avio 21 turn signals.  They look great and are easy to install.  Also, I haven't had any issues going sans resistors--the blink rate is normal with no other side effects.  I got mine at Monster parts for $80.00/pair.
http://www.monsterparts.com/pc/FR021/Electrical/FR021.html 
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« Reply #9 on: August 08, 2009, 09:32:49 AM »

Kellerman's




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« Reply #10 on: August 10, 2009, 07:43:02 AM »

these are the leds i'm looking at on ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160352959472&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT#ht_3076wt_940

so, i made this little diagram of my thought and how i should install the leds. can anyone tell me if i'm correct?





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« Reply #11 on: August 10, 2009, 09:36:48 AM »

that should work just fine.
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« Reply #12 on: August 10, 2009, 11:22:43 AM »

I bought those same turn signals off ebay and I'm very happy with them. They are nice and bright, and I like that extra little amber side view indicator.
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« Reply #13 on: August 10, 2009, 12:03:44 PM »

I bought those same turn signals off ebay and I'm very happy with them. They are nice and bright, and I like that extra little amber side view indicator.

awesome! i was a little concerned with the quality and the brightness.

did you have any problems installing them? is the stem long enough to clear the front windshield?

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« Reply #14 on: August 11, 2009, 06:55:58 AM »

ah yes, the windshield.

if you are using the OEM fairing, there will be a clearance issue because the stalks are much shorter.
I don't use my front fairing, but what I did was drill new holes forward and lower than the current position. that cleared the fairing.
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