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« on: August 24, 2009, 09:31:40 PM »

Hello guys I was just checking out to see if we have a topic about IN CASE OF EMERGENCY (ICE) procedures in or know your friends ICE pone number, if something goes wrong, who do you call to notify.

Keeping this in mind just make sure you put in your phone and wallet a ICE number, it is becoming popular so here is my recomendation. Not just do it on your phone not all the time your phone survive a crash or in some cases you have a password protected phone in case you loose it no one else can use it, guess what now we have an emergency and we can not use or get any of your numbers, ok so now lets check the wallet hopefully it is there.

I was recently notified that we have lost a fellow Ducati Monster rider (RIP) on a ride out to Fulshear, I was not part of this ride but I usually organize rides and this news have affected me and the way I see things and any future rides.

First all rides must be well organized and have a leader and a tail, on our rides we use this method and it has worked for us. Here are some tips that I found and it might help you on your next ride:

  There are more and more people getting together as groups not only for impromptu short excursions but also for organized rides.  A group ride could be defined as any group of two or more motorcycles riding together.  There are many specifics concerning group riding, including, instructions before the ride so everyone understands the hand signals, the route, how long between rest stops and a myriad of other necessary instructions.  This article is not going to go into specifics, but rather into the general guidelines of group riding so as to have a safe ride; but not be so overwhelmed with things to remember as to take away from the enjoyment of the ride.

Riding Formation

  A Group Ride is normally composed of a Ride Leader and a Sweep or Drag Rider (bringing up the rear).  For organized rides they usually have Radio or CB communication and knowledge of the route including not only the final destination, but also the stops along the route.  If more riders in the group have radios, then casual chatter during the ride should be kept to a minimum by the riders of the group so that the Lead and the Sweep Riders can be in instant communication whenever needed.  Motorcyclists normally will monitor Channel 1, but this can be easily changed if a new channel is agreed upon before the ride starts, or even during the ride, if necessary.  If communication between other riders in the group is desired; then they should go to another channel.

  Normal riding as a group is done in a staggered formation. This is, basically, dividing a lane in half with each rider occupying his/her own half of the lane.  It is each rider's responsibility to ride in the half of the lane as dictated to by the next rider in front.  If the rider in front needs to change lane halves to maintain the stagger, then it is the following rider's responsibility to change lane position on down the line to accommodate this change. The Lead Rider usually starts the stagger in the left half of the lane position.  While in staggered group riding, the normal stagger distance is 1 -> 2 seconds, and no more than a 3 second gap, in order to maintain a tight formation and not allow traffic to interrupt and break up the formation.  This means that each rider will be 2 -> 3 seconds behind the rider directly in front and using the same half of the lane.  When coming to a stop, the group generally forms up two abreast / side by side.  When the group starts off, the rider on the left starts first.

  When riding in curves, the stagger is no longer warranted and a single file type of formation is normal.  These changes in lane position should be dictated by the lead Rider.  Holding two fingers straight up in the air (either the index and little fingers, or the first two fingers) indicates a staggered formation, while the index finger pointing straight up in the air is a direction for single file riding.

  Single file riding allows the riders more freedom to negotiate the curves and to dodge obstacles while having the freedom to use the whole lane.  In single formation the normal distance between riders is increased to 3 -> 5 seconds.  For safety, the single file formation should not be elongated to such a distance that the rider in front cannot be seen.  There are two reasons for this:

    1. It is much easier to negotiate around corners by using the next rider's position to "see" further around blind curves

    2. The rider can see and pass back hand signals indicating obstacles or other information ahead.

  If any rider feels that the group pace is too fast for comfort, then he/she should motion the following bikes to pass until the only one left following is the Sweep/Drag Rider.  Then ride at your own pace until the next stop; when you should inform the Lead Rider that you are uncomfortable with the pace.  It will then be up to the Lead Rider to either separate the ride into two groups, or go at a slower pace so that all members of the group feel secure. Group riding should not be, and is never,  a race!

  If a rider in the formation needs to pull out for any reason, the group will close up the gap and reorganize the stagger.  Please do not pull off, also, unless you need to do so.  The Sweep/Drag Rider of the group will aid the rider who has pulled over.  He will also communicate (via phone-radio) with the Ride Leader so as to apprise him of the situation.  The next (last) rider then becomes the Sweep/Drag rider until the Sweep/Drag rider returns to the group. 

  When turning onto another road, if the next rider back cannot be seen, either due to having traffic in-between, or a large enough gap in the group for any reason; the last rider in the line must wait at the turn for the next rider to show up before leaving the turn so as to signal that the route has taken a turn.  This will keep the group together on the same route even though there may be unforeseen gaps in the formation. 

Passage of Information through Signals 

  During the ride, the Ride Leader will make various blinker light, hand, and leg signals. These signals indicate lane changes or turns, obstacles, increasing/decreasing speed, or whether to form a stagger formation or a single line.  These hand signals need to be passed back through the group from the front rider to the next rider in line.  That way each rider only needs to be cognizant of signals from the rider directly in front of him/her rather than everyone trying to keep an eye on the Ride Leader.

  Blinker lights should always be used to not only allow everyone to see the upcoming change, but to feed back acknowledgment.  In a group ride, whether it be the Ride Leader or in the middle of the pack, the bike in front needs to see the blinker light of the following rider before turning in front of the following rider/bike (such as a right hand turn when the bike in the left stagger crosses over in the right stagger lane).  This prevents the bike in front from crashing into the (surprised/unprepared) following bike/rider when making the turn. Assuming that the following bike sees your blinker light.  Sometimes riders don't notice blinker lights right away, so they should be turned on well before the turn.  That way everybody in the group becomes aware that a turn is coming up.

  If an obstacle is spotted in the road, it should immediately be signaled to the riders in back for safety.  Sometimes, when the obstacle is spotted in a blind curve, and one doesn't want to take one's hand off the handlebars, the signal is often done with an outstretched leg (indicating which side of the lane the obstacle is located).  This can be very useful when you don't want to take your hand off the throttle and the obstacle is on the right side of a blind curve.  Some typical obstacles which should be signaled as to where they may lie in the lane are: sand/dirt/gravel/rocks, pot holes, dead animals, road dragons, (pieces of truck tire treads), vehicular debris, range cattle, tar snakes (road tar repairs), furniture, etc. These obstacle signals should always be passed to the rear as soon as possible so as to give those riders the best opportunity to dodge them.  Don't forget that the riders towards the rear in a group ride will not be able to see as much of the whole road surface as those in front due to the visual blockage of the front riders.  Other hand signals include speed changes, directions for coming alongside or passing, need for food or rest stop, and other miscellaneous things like telling another rider that his blinker light is on unnecessarily.

Riding Strategies

  There are certain tips which, when incorporated into one's riding, will make the ride safer as well as enjoyable.  The following are some generalities of how to ride in rural areas.  Range cattle have the right of way.  Riders should slow way down for cattle found alongside, or in, the roadway. Some of these, especially the calves, become skittish and very often bolt directly in front of the bike, so have your brake covered in case you need to come to a complete immediate stop.

  Some years seem to have a bumper crop of locusts which like to crawl out on the roadway to sun themselves.  Although, in places, the road might appear to be covered with them; don't worry about losing traction because of them.  You will not hydroplane (skid) over them unless you are in a full fledged migration, or swarm.

  When there are an abnormal number of locusts on the road, there also seems to be an overabundance of locust eaters, or chipmunks and ground squirrels.  These can sometimes be seen down the road in the dozens in certain areas.  Even though no one wants to hit one of these cute little critters; do not attempt to dodge or brake for them as this will actually increase the odds that you will hit them.  They will dodge or stop at just the last moment, and if you attempt to swerve or brake for them; you will be more likely to lose control if you do hit one.  On those occasions where you are worried about hitting one of them; just get a good grip on the handlebars and ride your line.  At worst, even when leaned over in a curve, you will only feel a slight bump if you happen run over one.

  Sand/gravel is sometimes found in curves from cars and trailers running a wheel off the roadway and "splashing" up some of the sand/gravel from the side of the road.  Sometimes in the springtime there are also some "dirty" sections of the roads in the higher elevations due to snow melt runoff.  When encountering a dirty roadway, the inside tire track of the lane (closest to the centerline) is almost always the cleanest part of the road and should be taken in a single file formation.

  Cattle Guards while in curves are sometimes also encountered.  These can be slippery, especially to motorcycle tires with their small contact patches.  When wet, either with water or oil, they are extremely hazardous and should always be taken in a straight line while straight up on the motorcycle (no lean angle).  This can be accomplished by doing the curve in two stages.  The beginning of the turn before the cattle guard, then straight up over the guard, and finish the turn after going over it.  This is known as a "double apex" for those who may not already know the technical terminology.

Conclusion

  Group Riding can be a lot of fun if all the members are comfortable within the group.  If one or more members of the group are not comfortable; then this should be discussed at the next stop so as to accommodate or correct the cause of the problem.  It's very easy to take each problem and, with a little tact, teach whom ever might not have a sufficient understanding of these simple rules.  We all can then enjoy the fine sport of Motorcycling.

   
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« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2009, 02:32:09 AM »

sorry to hear about the loss of a rider.  Cry


As for ICE info, I always wear a dog tag with 2 emergency contacts and some basic info.  I use 2, as one is usually out riding with me (my boyfriend), the other #s are for my mother.   My boyfriend wears his (that I had made for him) when he rides as well. 
Typically they're less that $10 to have made and sent to you.  I've never  bothered with the phone, as I figure if I'm in an accident someone may never find it, and good luck getting it to work again.



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« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2009, 04:35:18 AM »

I wear a Road ID on my wrist for bicycling and motorcycling.

I've never  bothered with the phone, as I figure if I'm in an accident someone may never find it, and good luck getting it to work again.

I agree.  I do have phone #s to call on a sticker on the back of my phone (it is password protected) but I'm not counting on anyone finding it or it working.

  When there are an abnormal number of locusts on the road, there also seems to be an overabundance of locust eaters, or chipmunks and ground squirrels.  These can sometimes be seen down the road in the dozens in certain areas.

I could say the same for deer where I live. Tongue
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« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2009, 07:00:34 AM »

I've started wearing my www.RoadID.com religiously when cycling, surfing, riding, skydiving, drinking, sport making the beast with two backsidesing, sleeping.... in that order.
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« Reply #4 on: August 25, 2009, 08:21:30 AM »

I wear a Road ID on my wrist for bicycling and motorcycling.

We were just talking about getting one of the road ID's for each of us since we started cycling. I think that they are a great idea.  waytogo
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« Reply #5 on: August 25, 2009, 01:57:36 PM »

I've got the info in my phone, but I also have one of these http://www.cyclegadgets.com/Products/product.asp?Item=MICS on each of my helmets.  EMS are supposed to be being trained to look at the back left a helmet for info.  At $2 each for this little pouch (and info card) , it was well worth it.

They used to give you one free when you ordered something else; I don't know if they still do that or not.
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« Reply #6 on: August 25, 2009, 03:27:55 PM »

We are getting some good info and tips for the road, guys keep it safe.


I've got the info in my phone, but I also have one of these http://www.cyclegadgets.com/Products/product.asp?Item=MICS on each of my helmets.  EMS are supposed to be being trained to look at the back left a helmet for info.  At $2 each for this little pouch (and info card) , it was well worth it.

They used to give you one free when you ordered something else; I don't know if they still do that or not.
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« Reply #7 on: August 25, 2009, 04:36:50 PM »

We are getting some good info and tips for the road, guys keep it safe.



http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?board=8.0
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« Reply #8 on: August 25, 2009, 05:06:17 PM »

ok I do not get your post what do I supouse to look in this page for the answer?  Huh?

We are talking about In case of emergency contact information right?


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« Reply #9 on: August 25, 2009, 05:19:47 PM »

ok I do not get your post what do I supouse to look in this page for the answer?  Huh?

We are talking about In case of emergency contact information right?

I think he was referring to this thread which is in there:

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« Reply #10 on: August 25, 2009, 08:20:46 PM »

great info, thanks
looks like I'll be purchasing a RoadID soon.

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« Reply #11 on: August 25, 2009, 09:05:49 PM »

I wear RoadID. I bicycle & run in the mountains daily.   I got them for dusty & ducmouse this summer (in Ducati red). 
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