That OTHER Monster forum

[NorDog]

I was curious just how much the re-vamping of the old DML has hurt its popularity, so I began tracking the number of posts today.

From about 1:30 pm to 6:00 pm today there were 32 posts.

During the same amount of time here at the DMF there were 330 posts.

Again, I'm reminded of the "New Coke" scandal some years back.  You've got the best thing going, so you decide to change it.  Stupid.

The "admin" over there finally pm'ed me about my many requests for a refund.  "He" said he would look into it.

Let me thank again all those responsible for creating this forum.

[Duck-Stew]

I was curious just how much the re-vamping of the old DML has hurt its popularity, so I began tracking the number of posts today.

From about 1:30 pm to 6:00 pm today there were 32 posts.

During the same amount of time here at the DMF there were 330 posts.

Again, I'm reminded of the "New Coke" scandal some years back.  You've got the best thing going, so you decide to change it.  Stupid.

The "admin" over there finally pm'ed me about my many requests for a refund.  "He" said he would look into it.

Let me thank again all those responsible for creating this forum.

Interesting #'s NorDog....  I didn't think we would've surpassed 'them' by now, let alone by 10X!  Hehehe....  So glad to be a part of this!  [moto]

[Ducatiloo]

A lot of the posts are just squids fighting now also.

I miss new coke 

[Scottish]

They still have a higher member count, but I think most the people who actually spent time there and contributed have made their way here. Our local board is a ghost town there. Maybe five post since the change.

[NorDog]

They still have a higher member count, but I think most the people who actually spent time there and contributed have made their way here. Our local board is a ghost town there. Maybe five post since the change.

Yeah, but I'm in that member count as well, but I sure ain't no member anymore.  I'm sure that count includes every guy/gal who registerd years ago and posted 5 times and hasn't been seen since.

[Ohmic]

I wonder if VS has ever seen this kind of reaction from a particular motorcycle group after they assimilated their forum?

Maybe this is the first resistance for them? We Monster riders are a different breed.  Which i always suspect. We are definitely more evolved then the rest of the forums out there. Hell we have the Monster bike to prove it.

[zarn02]

i am passingly curious as to what sort of reaction their takeovers have garnered on other forums.

[Stangman]

What exactly is "VS" ? I mean what does that stand for?  Is that the company that bought the DML and if so it sounds like they have done this kind of thing before.

I've been a member for several years on the DML, I hadnt logged in for a few weeks, I come back and there was ZERO info explaining wtf happened...I was pretty confused.  And I think my vision has been permanently damaged by the obnoxious ads.  

[zarn02]

What exactly is "VS" ? I mean what does that stand for?  Is that the company that bought the DML and if so it sounds like they have done this kind of thing before.

VS is "Vertical Scope." they bought the DML, and a bunch of other forums. they might have a complete list on their website, but i'm not sure.

[Scottish]

I wonder if VS has ever seen this kind of reaction from a particular motorcycle group after they
assimilated their forum?

Maybe this is the first resistance for them? We Monster riders are a different breed.  Which i always suspect.
 We are definitely more evolved then the rest of the forums out there. Hell we have the Monster bike to prove it.

It occurred to Lance earlier today that he has a lot of moto peeps on his friends list at myspace so he sent
out a bulletin: I am including a response to it too. It covers just about everything. Read and enjoy...

----------------- Bulletin Message -----------------
From:Lance
Date: May 22, 2008 8:17 AM


Hey everyone, this bulletin goes out to all my Ducati peeps or Duc fans. I hope everyone has safely made the transition
 by now. However for anyone who may have been left behind at the old Ducati Monster List most all the cool kids have
 moved over to the Ducati Monster Forum. If you've been looking around the old site wondering where everyone is here
 is the answer. Linky: http://ducatimonsterworldwide. org/index. Hope to see everyone there, sorry it took me so long
 to send this out, I just don't check myspace very often and it only now occurred to me that this is another way to reach
 those left behind, since any mention of the new board if forbidden at the old place. Have fun, and keep the shiny side up!

Sounds EXACTLY like what happened over at "http://www.msplinks.com/R6messagenet. com in January.  It
was bought up by http://www.msplinks.com(owned by a company called Vertical Scope,) that's going around buying
everything.  The board sold to them, got plastered with ads and bullshit and slowed wayyyyy down.  Then they reduced
 your freedom, your mailbox size, and charged money for "premium membership" to remove the ads & get your freedom
 back. And now, to prevent people from ripping their posts down, you can only edit your posts for 15 minutes after you
 post them originally.

So a member bought a server and started R6central, and we all started telling everyone to go over there, so VS started
 filtering "http://www.msplinks.com/R6Central. com and was banning people advertising the new site.

VS is a joke, and I do see a Ducati Monster link on R6MN, I bet they're the ones that bought it right?

make the beast with two backsin joke.  R6MN had insane traffic every day with 30000 members, now they get like 50-100 posts a day.  There's
tumbleweeds floatin through that board, lol.  Good purchasing & management tactics guys!!!  Power to Vertical Scope!!! 
 Hahaha, jackasses.

Anyhow, just thought I'd share.

Peace man,
Danny

[Ohmic]

I've been a member for several years on the DML, I hadnt logged in for a few weeks, I come back and there was ZERO info explaining wtf happened...I was pretty confused.  And I think my vision has been permanently damaged by the obnoxious ads. 

You should have seen it 24hrs AFTER the take-over/"redesigned" of ToB. It was total anarchy and chaos everywhere. Today they have cleaned up all the evidence by deleting posts and banning people that spoke out.

[Stangman]

Thanks for the info.  Now I understand.  Wow so judging from looking at their site and what they do I am guessing we are talking about a substantial amount of money that they paid for the DML then huh?

[ODrides]

Thanks for the info.  Now I understand.  Wow so judging from looking at their site and what they do I am guessing we are talking about a substantial amount of money that they paid for the DML then huh?

I'm curious about that too.  Who actually owned DML originally?  And is he now involved with DMF?  Gotta feel a little sorry for the VS crew who swoop into town probably planning to make some slight revisions and to keep everyone happy, then they end up with a pile of crap.  Clearly they didn't get a good feel for the community they were moving into.  I wonder how long those advertisers will stay.

[arai_speed]

No wonder some of the other boards I've seen look exactly the same!  It trips me out that companies wish to make money based on the knowledge and support of the community members.

I can block the ads, but I rather not, so I come here and so far everyone I've PM'm or spoken to has been friendly and helpful.

Thanks to the owners for setting this up 

[Kaveh]

I'm curious about that too.  Who actually owned DML originally?  And is he now involved with DMF?  Gotta feel a little sorry for the VS crew who swoop into town probably planning to make some slight revisions and to keep everyone happy, then they end up with a pile of crap.  Clearly they didn't get a good feel for the community they were moving into.  I wonder how long those advertisers will stay.

If you read the thread "why we're here" it will answer your questions.

The owner of the DML is NOT involved with the DMF.  There was one person that owned the DML, and only one person benefited from the sale of the DML. 

*Personally* I got zero bad feelings towards Jeff (the old owner of the DML), he had his reasons for the sale and we still have our community.