Other options for cooling bike...

Started by Scotzman, September 01, 2009, 06:29:15 PM

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Scotzman

I recently moved and have an hour ride to work in 90-100 degree weather. I have the oil cooler, but my bike still gets into the 270's. Unfortunately there's about a 20 mile span where a single lane has a 55mph section (hwy76 for those in San Diego), where cars go about 45.

Is there any other mods or tips to prevent getting up into these temps?

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NAKID

270's isn't that bad. The oil/aircooled bikes are HOT when they get to ~330. My old S2R800 would routinely get into the 290's in the Phoenix heat. No problem...
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2006 S2R1000
2015 Monster 821

woodyracing

what have you done to the bike already?  If you haven't already, a DP ECU setup to about 3.5% COs will lower the temps a bit

Slide Panda

For an air cooled bike... move to a cooler area  ;D.

But basically, make sure you're not running lean at all, as noted. And then the only other option is to increase the cooling surface area.  The easiest way to to that is with a larger oil cooler.
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Langanobob

What NAKID said.  As long as you're running synthetic oil, Ducati thinks you're very OK at 270.  The high temp alarm isn't until 330 or so. 



Scotzman

I'd love to move to a cooler area(originally from CO), but then there wouldn't be nice year round riding. I brought the temps up to a Duc mechanic (moto forza) and they had expressed that it was pretty high.

I didn't know about the ECU change, so I'll add that to the list.

Thanks
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teddy037.2


Scotzman

Quote from: teddy037.2 on September 02, 2009, 01:53:47 PM
is your bike running lean?
Not anymore than what it is from the factory( as far as I can tell). The only mod that's involved any of that is chopping (not coring) the exhaust.

How would I tell if it's running MORE lean?
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scott_araujo

It may be quite lean from the factory.  My'03 800 was, as are many bikes that have the typical 'lean pop' problem at cruising speed.  That's to meet the Euro and US emissions.  The standard ECU has an idle CO trim than can help richen it up, mostly at the lower end of the RPMs.  It matters much less at high revs and high throttle openings.  It's not the same adjustability as a Power Commander but it's some.  Once I adjusted mine the bike ran smoother and noticeably cooler.

You do need a PC and software or the Mathesis tester to do this yourself but you can also just go to your local shop and ask them to set it.  Maybe have them do a TPS reset and throttle body synch while you're at it.  Those should all be adjusted at the same time anyway.

Scott


teddy037.2

+1 on having the dealer check trim/TPS/etc.

you can get a fair idea by checking your plugs, white=lean, light brown=normal, etc. there's plenty of info online on looking at your sparkplugs

but have your dealer do what they can w/o paying for new parts, to get that out of the way.

scott_araujo

Oh, one more: if you aren't already doing it buy premium gas.  Higher octane gas burns cooler.  I was reminded of this when I filled up with 87 yesterday and was riding home at 238F.  The bike usually runs at 220F on premium.

Scott

Scotzman

Quote from: scott_araujo on September 04, 2009, 06:54:27 AM
Oh, one more: if you aren't already doing it buy premium gas.  Higher octane gas burns cooler.  I was reminded of this when I filled up with 87 yesterday and was riding home at 238F.  The bike usually runs at 220F on premium.

Scott
This is something I'm pretty religious about, a few more cents is worth is to me. I know some people don't see any difference with the octance, but I try to follow the books recommendations.
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NAKID

Quote from: scott_araujo on September 04, 2009, 06:54:27 AM
Oh, one more: if you aren't already doing it buy premium gas.  Higher octane gas burns cooler.  I was reminded of this when I filled up with 87 yesterday and was riding home at 238F.  The bike usually runs at 220F on premium.

Scott

Higher octane doesn't "burn cooler", it just resists knocking more than lower grades of fuel.
That being said, I have tried 87,89, and 91 and found 89 to work best in my S2R1000...
2005 S2R800
2006 S2R1000
2015 Monster 821

Scotzman

Why 89 over 91? Any issues with 91 or just no issues with 89 and it's cheaper?
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