Involved in IVF? how's this for unfknbelievable.

Started by brimo, September 03, 2009, 12:46:50 PM

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brimo

Criminal background checks for wannabe Mums and Dads (like me)
I don't live in Victoria, but we have a donor there....WTF?
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/09/03/2676142.htm
"The make the beast with two backsin monkey started it..."

From a story by RAT900
http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=54722.msg1015917#msg1015917

River

Wait a second...

Any weirdo, whack-job, crack-addicted, disease-ridden, abusive, obnoxious, sorry-excuse-for-a-human-being that can procreate can do so over and over with impunity, but couples who have the money, intestinal fortitude, desire and wherewithall to endure that kind of infertility treatment in order to have a child get subjected to a criminal background check?  REALLY???

MAYBE, if you have to have a license to drive a car, you should have a license to procreate.  Perhaps EVERY person old enough to have/make a baby should go through a screening process.  If you're a loser, you get sterilized.

Oh, what's that?  I've gone too far???  Huh.  Then so has the government. 

I'm just sayin'...

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Quote from: River on September 03, 2009, 01:14:25 PM
Wait a second...

Any weirdo, whack-job, crack-addicted, disease-ridden, abusive, obnoxious, sorry-excuse-for-a-human-being that can procreate can do so over and over with impunity, but couples who have the money, intestinal fortitude, desire and wherewithall to endure that kind of infertility treatment in order to have a child get subjected to a criminal background check?  REALLY???

MAYBE, if you have to have a license to drive a car, you should have a license to procreate.  Perhaps EVERY person old enough to have/make a baby should go through a screening process.  If you're a loser, you get sterilized.

Oh, what's that?  I've gone too far???  Huh.  Then so has the government. 

I'm just sayin'...

(...steps off soap box...)

if you run for president I'd totally vote for you [laugh]

erkishhorde

Criminal background checks are stupid. Now, a psychological test I might go for *cough* octomom *cough*.
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Quote from: erkishhorde on September 03, 2009, 01:42:21 PM
Criminal background checks are stupid. Now, a psychological test I might go for *cough* octomom *cough*.

Yes, a psychological counselling session is something we had to do here as part of the process and I have no objection to that.
"The make the beast with two backsin monkey started it..."

From a story by RAT900
http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=54722.msg1015917#msg1015917

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octamom ruined the turkeybaster party for everybody.
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il d00d

I appreciate the tragic irony of this law as much as the next person, but I just want to point out that the Aussies have socialized health care.  The article presents their rationale:
"..this is government funds that are being used to help these people get pregnant and therefore they require extra checking," he said."

My sister has adopted two kids and has had enough background checks to qualify to be director of the NSA.  The same questions apply: why should her parenting ability need to be sanctified by the state, etc?  To her, it is simply the cost of doing baby business.

Also, I don't think they are doing this to be prejudicial, but to prevent this headline from happening "Australian Government Funded Fertility Treatment for Pedophiles"

A good friend and his wife have been through serveral rounds of treatments, at a financial cost of tens of thousands per attempt (and incalculable emotional cost)  Just out of curiosity, I looked up the out-of-pocket expenses for treatment in Australia.  Keep in mind these are Aussie dollars :)


IVF TREATMENT
Patient Out of Pocket Costs after Safety Net*

Stimulated Cycle
$904.80

Natural / Minimal Stimulated Cycle
$520.00

Frozen Embryo Transfer
$280.00

Artificial Insemination
$274.56

brimo

My objection is that those recources going in to doing criminal history checks on people doing IVF could be spent elsewhere. We are forever being told how underfunded the police and health system is.
"The make the beast with two backsin monkey started it..."

From a story by RAT900
http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=54722.msg1015917#msg1015917

rgramjet

Am I the only one that thinks Octomom is a little bit hot?
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Quote from: rgramjet on September 04, 2009, 06:18:49 PM
Am I the only one that thinks Octomom is a little bit hot?

Probably not, but certainly one of a select few ;D

hbliam

Quote from: rgramjet on September 04, 2009, 06:18:49 PM
Am I the only one that thinks Octomom is a little bit hot?

If you are one of the few that like chicks with a fivehead, no.

ducatiz

Quote from: bobspapa on September 03, 2009, 05:16:44 PM
octamom ruined the turkeybaster party for everybody.


turkeybaster?  they used a firehose on that girl.
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Quote from: rgramjet on September 04, 2009, 06:18:49 PM
Am I the only one that thinks Octomom is a little bit hot?

Only one? Probably not. One of the VERY FEW here? Most likely....
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