make the beast with two backs nyc

[Raux]

12. No person shall operate a  motorcycle  on  any  highway  which  is
  equipped  with an exhaust device that is intentionally designed to allow
  for  the  internal  baffling  to  be  fully  or  partially  removed   or
  interchangeable.  This  subdivision  shall  not  apply  to  a motorcycle
  manufactured or assembled prior to nineteen hundred  seventy-nine  or  a
  motorcycle registered as a limited use vehicle or an all terrain vehicle
  pursuant to article forty-eight-A or forty-eight-B of this chapter.



does this mean ALLL aftermarket exhausts that have a removeable baffle are illegal...

[He Man]

If you dont live in NYC, none of this applies. Its not a federal law.

I had my visor open all the way at the stop light and closed it half way and when he pulled me over, i stopped the bike. took the keys out droped them, got off the bike and put my hands up to chest level to show him i had nothing in my hands until he came over and started release a mouthful of bullshit on me.

To the few people who are leos and say they like courteous people, this cop litteraly said, verbatum...

"You have to have your visor down when you ride" Aye sir
"Your right mirror is missing. Is this a stock headlight, if not ,did you install it?"  Stock sir.
"License registration" aye sir

3 mins later, i got 2 tickets.

What about the Highway Patrol that left me sitting in the make the beast with two backsing rain for 30 mins and gave me 2 tickets?

clearly you are sticking out...for whatever reason.
maybe you should get your bike legal
and/or slow down if thats part of the problem.

I dont know what i am doing to attract this kind of bullshit. My bike is perfectly legal minus the exahust, which isnt that loud, and ive never gotten a ticket for it. And I dont even get a chance to speed in the city, so thats not the problem either, and if i was, i should get a speeding ticket. not BULLSHIT ticket. Ill accept blame for ANY ticket thats actually my fault (doesnt mean i wont fight it). That includes speeding, lane splitting, or wreckless driving.

It doesnt help that when i went to leave, a dog took a shit on my tire and i had to kick it away otherwise i run over it.

Yea, i dont know wtf i'm doing wrong to anyone, but karma is taking a major shit on me.

[ducatiz]

I got two tickets. One for "face shield googles removed" 381-7
"mirror req rt side" 381

so yea. If people believe in karma I'm. Not sure what I'm doing to deserve this.

a quick read of the statutes that statler posted shows the second citation is bs.  only one mirror is required, and the statute does not specify which side.  moreover, if he only put "381" for the statute cite, then it may fail for ambiguity since that doesn't refer to a mirror at all.

[He Man]

which stands its ground? the violation citation or the written discretion?

I was given a ticket stating my bike is black when it was silver. But the judge decided that the color of the motorcycle doesn't matter...

[Oldfisti]

Maybe Karma has something so unbelievably kick ass in store for you that it needs to shit on you as a pre-emptive way of balancing things out.  


I'd buy a lottery ticket if I were you.

[He Man]

Maybe Karma has something so unbelievably kick ass in store for you that it needs to shit on you as a pre-emptive way of balancing things out. 


I'd buy a lottery ticket if I were you.

Karma isnt preemptive...well not that i know of.

[Oldfisti]

Karma isnt preemptive...well not that i know of.

Wishful thinking...

[He Man]

Wishful thinking...

shouldnt it be the opposite???


The tickets have some minor errors in it.

One ticket states a "VEH. TYPE 1" the other says "VEH.TYPE 3"

The cops hand writing is SO out of wack, he might of been scared to give me these tickets, thats very true if hes just trying to fill is quota. Cause he was IN AND OUT.

[He Man]

from

"http://hdforums.com/forum/the-motorcycle-activist/243189-nyc-check-points-today-a-need-advice.html"

"1) it seems pretty important that the operator of a motorcycle needs to constantly evaluate and re-evaluate how s/he uses his/her equipment, depending on safety, visibility, road conditions, weather, etc. And if NYC effectively causes there to be the ubiquitous closure of shields, its simply unsafe and inconsistent with the law and the purpose of the law."

My visor was up for that momment in time because it was frigging hot.


Anyone been to court for these things?

[Statler]

by hot you mean the humidity fogged the shield and since you were going at a slow speed cracking it open a little bit did not move enough air to defog?

[He Man]

yes

[Statler]

ah...too bad....fogging would be a real safety issue and would mean you realy had to raise the shield to operate the vehicle safely.

[He Man]

what? 

even then, its up to the judge to decide whats what? I'm glad that he gave me two tickets because one of them shows how full of shit the cop is, and maybe the judge will realize hes make the beast with two backsing retarded.

[Statler]

dude, ease up.   I was giving some lighthearted advice about some possible defenses if you fight it.   Lay off the cop bashing, please.   Discussing legal issues around a ticket is one thing.  trashing officers is the out of bounds stuff for the forum.

[ducatiz]

which stands its ground? the violation citation or the written discretion?

I was given a ticket stating my bike is black when it was silver. But the judge decided that the color of the motorcycle doesn't matter...

the "mir req rt side 381" is bullshit

if you have one mirror on the left in NY you are fine.

NYC does not have different laws from NYS DOT.  sec 381.xx requires ONE mirror and the general interp is that this is for the left side, but the statute doesn't specify.