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« Reply #15 on: September 10, 2009, 07:29:45 PM »

**Update**

Wife went and put a new set of tyres on in the hope that fixed my issues.

She just called to say it rides brilliantly and feels like my old Firestorm.

From the initial suspension woes and the wheel being on incorrectly, i would assume it's caused the tyre to wear in a weird way. When i had everything adjusted, i am left with a tyre with uneven wear making it still feel horrible. That makes sense to me.

Oh thank fking God this whole saga is now over!!!!!!

I'm out of Sydney for the weekend but will take it for a burn as soon as i get home. If it rides like it's supposed to, i will name my bike (i withheld a name as i wasn't going to keep her).

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« Reply #16 on: September 10, 2009, 10:37:37 PM »

the 'ducati briantrust' comes through again!  waytogo

your wife is COOL.  waytogo
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« Reply #17 on: September 10, 2009, 11:54:57 PM »

I'm not a sht hot rider, i doubt i could even tell the difference between a set of tyres, so it's not anything relating to equipment levels or setup. The suspension is fine, i really like the setup and think the stock suspension does a fantastic job.

Just for reference my previous ride was an MV Agusta F4 and a Honda VTR1000. My wife has a new Aprilia RS125 which i ride on the odd occasion when i am feeling playful.

The problem with the S4R (and it has been from day one) is turning. Any turn no matter what speed and what angle is a massive effort. The bike always wants to stand up straight and never turn. I am completely baffled why this is the case  Huh?   Now the F4 was as stiff as all hell but even that was better behaved at slow speed. How is this possible?

Both suspension issues and front wheel have been rectified. It is a LOT better than day 1 but still quite shit.

Every Monster owner loves their bike.....except me. I am not that fussy but out of the 20+ bikes i have ridden, my Monster is the worst in the rideability stakes by a mile.

What could it be? Wheel weights? Rear wheel not on correctly? bent frame? bent forks? Suggestions?

Tomorrow i will ride over to Frasers and take a Monster for a burn for comparison. I dunno, the test ride was fantastic. The bike i was given is shit.


before tearing up a wad of cash, as well as sledging a fantastic bike, set it up! from new it's a very fast bike with a lot of power that appeals to a broad selection of riders, that equals a conservative, safe set up from the factory. start by dropping the forks 5mm and winding the compression adjusters (the ones on the bottom) clockwise two clicks. wind the rebound adjusters (the top ones ) anticlockwise one click. this is all from standard. ride it. it will turn much better, run reasonably high tyre pressures, try 34psi front and 36 to 38 psi rear. from there you can add a little preload to the rear, but not until you are comfortable with the changes you have made to the front.
   The MV F4 in my opinion is a revvy, overpriced piece of jewellry, and to go fast on one of them you have to be a very, very good rider, if you can't tell one set of tyres from another a doubt you would get anywhere near the chassis limits of any of your bikes. my guess would be the wide bars and no fairing gives unwanted input, that too can be dealt with.
   There's nothing wrong with the chassis of the late monsters, it's a derivative of the ST series and is more capable than most who ride it, including me, just because you think it's shit doesn't make it so, in fact, i'd go as far as to say ducati haven't made a bad handling bike since that parralel twin abortion in the late 70's.

paul.
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« Reply #18 on: September 11, 2009, 02:06:21 PM »

**Update**
and the wheel being on incorrectly,

WTF???

Ita

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« Reply #19 on: September 11, 2009, 02:50:57 PM »

WTF???

Ita



This is the latest in the ongoing saga which is SG's handling issues ... to fill in some of the blanks:

http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=28226.0
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« Reply #20 on: September 11, 2009, 02:57:04 PM »

Thanks Betty....

NFI..  What a pack of retards..

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« Reply #21 on: September 13, 2009, 01:09:16 PM »

Yeah it's been pretty bad. The moment i got the bike it didn't feel good and i have pissed and moaned on here for the past 6 months about it LOL. Frasers rode the bike and said it was great..... <insert bent over bum with fist going in icon>

I was able to take it for a quick 100km ride when i got home on Sunday. I am so used to it constantly fighting me when i hopped on the first 50m felt like i was riding on ice. I realise how messed up the bike was from Frasers.

Back on it this morning, i am all good. Pumped it around a few bends and it holds a beautiful line without me making any effort whatsoever. No wonder i was always so ratshit after the Putty rides, all that fighting was exhausting!!

The fork dropping was something i was looking into (as i have adjust the suspension and ride height already) but i will leave it for the time being. If i feel the need to change it, i will.

Now the bike is actually fixed, i won't sell it anytime soon. I'm looking forward to riding down for the MotoGP next month.

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« Reply #22 on: September 13, 2009, 11:35:09 PM »

Yeah it's been pretty bad. The moment i got the bike it didn't feel good and i have pissed and moaned on here for the past 6 months about it LOL. Frasers rode the bike and said it was great..... <insert bent over bum with fist going in icon>

I was able to take it for a quick 100km ride when i got home on Sunday. I am so used to it constantly fighting me when i hopped on the first 50m felt like i was riding on ice. I realise how messed up the bike was from Frasers.

Back on it this morning, i am all good. Pumped it around a few bends and it holds a beautiful line without me making any effort whatsoever. No wonder i was always so ratshit after the Putty rides, all that fighting was exhausting!!

The fork dropping was something i was looking into (as i have adjust the suspension and ride height already) but i will leave it for the time being. If i feel the need to change it, i will.

Now the bike is actually fixed, i won't sell it anytime soon. I'm looking forward to riding down for the MotoGP next month.




good work.
if you have raised the rear 8mm i'd be wary of lowering the front 5mm, it will make it a little nervous, the wide bars and no fairing will encourage unwanted input from the wind and may make it flighty and weave a bit, especially with a worn front tyre. if you do want the faster steering a damper is an excellent investment, some say it masks handling deficiencies and to an extent they can but from my experience it completely gets rid of unwanted input from wind and makes the bike track like it's on rails in fast corners (160kph +)

paul.
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HERE AND NOW                      12 DIAVEL AMG
                                              93 888 RS
                                              09 1098R BAYLISS
                                              07 Husqvarna TE 450

GONE BUT NOT FORGOTTEN        03 S4R       95 900SL
                                              01 S4         93 900M
                                              96 748SP
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