Human milk in community fridge?

[ducatiz]

jud,

don't click this link

http://www.lactation-porn.com/

[cyrus buelton]

I'm very familiar with insulin pumps and there is a definite need to test if you are on a pump.

sorry, I'll stop threadjacking now.

I thought the pumps tested for you? I am not in marketing or sales, just thought I recall hearing that once during a conversation with someone.

threadjacking is fine with me 

[ZLTFUL]

Psst. I have 3 kids. I know the routine. In fact went to EVERY OB/GYN for my youngest 2 and most of the ones for oldest.
And I also asked about the blood tests and HIV is ONLY performed if there is a risk factor in the mother's (or father's for that matter) history or it is specifically requested. The heel stick is not used to test for HIV btw...it is used for various genetic tests.

The neonatal heel prick is a common procedure for taking a blood sample from the heel of newborn infants. A pinprick puncture is made in the heel of the infant's foot, and blood from the foot is soaked into pre-printed collection cards known as Guthrie cards.[1]

The blood samples can be used for a variety of genetic tests, including:

Thyroid stimulating hormone (TSH) to detect hypothyroidism and hence prevent cretinism.
Trypsin to detect cystic fibrosis.
Detection of phenylketonuria, an enzyme deficiency that can impair brain development.
Other potential tests include:

A test for galactosemia
It is recommended that the screening test be performed when the infant is between 48 and 72 hours of age. False positives and negatives can sometimes occur when the screening tests are performed before 48 hours.[2]

With genetic tests becoming more common, a wide variety of tests may use the blood drawn by this method. Many neonatal units (SCBUs) now use this method to carry out the daily blood tests (blood count, electrolytes) required to check the progress of ill neonates.

In the UK the NHS test for:

Hypothyroidism
Cystic fibrosis
Phenylketonuria (PKU)
Medium Chain Acyl Co-A Dehydrogenase Deficiency (MCADD)
Sickle Cell [3]

[cyrus buelton]

Psst. I have 3 kids. I know the routine. In fact went to EVERY OB/GYN for my youngest 2 and most of the ones for oldest.
And I also asked about the blood tests and HIV is ONLY performed if there is a risk factor in the mother's (or father's for that matter) history or it is specifically requested. The heel stick is not used to test for HIV btw...it is used for various genetic tests.

If I recall, Neenja used a midwife at a non-hospital setting, so the procedures could drastically be different.

[Triple J]

This thread has gone off the deep end with what-if scenarios.  

Even if the breast milk did have HIV (not very likely)...it still doesn't pose a risk unless you ingest it, or somehow introduce it into your blood supply. Same goes for any other disease....it's in a container.

[cyrus buelton]

Even if the breast milk did have HIV (not very likely)...it still doesn't pose a risk unless you ingest it, or somehow introduce it into your blood supply. Same goes for any other disease....it's in a container.

a two-dollar rubbermaid 2qt water bottle is not what I would call a "safe container"

[ZLTFUL]

This thread has gone off the deep end with what-if scenarios.  

Even if the breast milk did have HIV (not very likely)...it still doesn't pose a risk unless you ingest it, or somehow introduce it into your blood supply. Same goes for any other disease....it's in a container.

The point being is that communal refridgerators are notorious for things getting knocked about and spilled. How is that breast milk soaked pizza you were hoping to have for lunch? Oops...turns out Molly (fictional (o)(o) milk provider) has Hep C and her milk was infected...you didn't eat that pizza did you? You did? Say hi to Pam Anderson for me.

[Betty Rage]

Why was your pizza uncovered? It may be just me, but whenever I had food in the community fridge I had it in containers with my name on it. A. So People wouldn't take it, B. so nothing got spilled on it.

[ZLTFUL]

Who hasn't ordered a pizza when working late some night and then thought to themselves the next day, HEY! I put that pizza box in the fridge last night! Score!!! Lunch! Last time I checked, cardboard was not a hermetically sealed bio-container.


Besides, I am just arguing for the sake of arguing. I hate winning internet arguments. It's like winning at the Special Olympics.

[Triple J]

a two-dollar rubbermaid 2qt water bottle is not what I would call a "safe container"

Where's it going to go??

The point being is that communal refridgerators are notorious for things getting knocked about and spilled. How is that breast milk soaked pizza you were hoping to have for lunch? Oops...turns out Molly (fictional (o)(o) milk provider) has Hep C and her milk was infected...you didn't eat that pizza did you? You did? Say hi to Pam Anderson for me.

Then don't eat the pizza...you'd be able to tell it was spilled on. If you bring your leftovers in a plastic container then it is a non-issue anyway.

I'm not saying there aren't legitimate health concerns, but the odds would seem to be extremely low that something would occur...and even those risks can be mitigated with a little common sense.

Do you people just lay unwrapped sandiwches/pizza on the fridge rack...next to some breast milk...which may be contaminated.

[mstevens]

...a scrotum or a bladder... (also containers for bodily secretions)

I don't think you know how scrota work...

Maybe you're thinking of seminal vesicles?

[mstevens]

Would you mind if I had a jar full of saliva next to your lunch?

I'm with NM on this: no, I wouldn't. I mind wonder why in the hell you had a jar full of saliva, but I can't think of any earthly possibility that there's anything in the saliva that could somehow bore through the jar and weasel its way through the plastic zippy bag containing my beloved sammich.

[cyrus buelton]

Where's it going to go??

Then don't eat the pizza...you'd be able to tell it was spilled on. If you bring your leftovers in a plastic container then it is a non-issue anyway.

I'm not saying there aren't legitimate health concerns, but the odds would seem to be extremely low that something would occur...and even those risks can be mitigated with a little common sense.

Do you people just lay unwrapped sandiwches/pizza on the fridge rack...next to some breast milk...which may be contaminated.

As Zltful said, community fridges are a trainwreck, at least mine is.

People knock stuff over all the time, shit gets spilled, etc.

My concern would be it gets knocked over, spills, and then it never gets cleaned up.

I don't have proper hazmat protection (read: laytex gloves) to clean it up, as there is no way I am touching someone else's bodily fluid without proper protection.

[cyrus buelton]

My wife's reaction to the thread:

"That's some nasty shit. I don't store my urine in the fridge, why would that be stored there? It is a bodily fluid. That is why we have a lactation room at work with a private fridge"

[ZLTFUL]

My wife's reaction to the thread:

"That's some nasty shit. I don't store my urine in the fridge, why would that be stored there? It is a bodily fluid. That is why we have a lactation room at work with a private fridge"

Game, set and match! Looks like Cyrus won at the Special Olympics!