Are people serious?

[miamiduc]

As i was leaving school today I saw this. Tire was completely flat. I could never imagine even driving my car like that, let alone my motorcycle.



What's the most dangerous thing you've seen on another motorcycle?

[Shifty]

  What the hell?!

I have seen some bad tires before... but that is ridiculous. Looks like a burnout casualty.

[miamiduc]

Oh and I hi to everyone btw. This is probably my second post but i have ben lurking on this board for about the past year, feeding off of the massive amount of information. I've had nothing to say for the most part because every question i have seems to have been answered before.

Me>>>

23yoM Full time finance/pre-med student in sunny Miami, FL where it's always riding weather (except when it's raining) Any one else here from miami..?

My Bike>>>

'02 M620 Purchased with 20k mi.

First thing i did was get rid of those ugly mickey mouse mirrors and put on the CRG's. waiting for the rizoma clip-ons

[Slide Panda]

Yay pictures - you've got things figured out here.

Well, that bike in your first photo's had a tough life, seems to have spent some time off it's wheels and not been fixed up.  The tail's bent, and they are missing a turn signal lens... Obviously this person takes great and loving care of their machine... or not.

I hope they put 'I was stupid' on the ER form as the cause of the injuries they will sustain when the tire blows.. and it will. Not that I wish that owner harm... but jebus, do something to save your own hide...

My contribution

An average Harley rider at Deal's Gap

That was a dangerous move by that HD rider... and they paid for it.

[Shifty]

Everything about that vid makes me laugh. 

[Grampa]

As i was leaving school today I saw this. Tire was completely flat. I could never imagine even driving my car like that, let alone my motorcycle.



What's the most dangerous thing you've seen on another motorcycle?

toss in a lack of pants...and ya have yerself a Luca 

[asado]

Everything about that vid makes me laugh. 

Whats so funny?  The passengers and driver of that vehicle should have stopped and helped the fallen rider.  What if the rider is seriously injured?  They could have offered to transport him/her to the nearest hospital instead of waiting for the ambulance and possibly saving his/her life.  I agree that it was a not so smart move by the rider but how would you like it if it was you and nobody stopped to help you?

[orangelion03]

Thanks for sharin YUU!    
The fact that his riding budy nearly did the same thing speaks volume.  Fixate on the tailight much?  I cant imagine he was hurt.  Looks like he went into the bushes upright.  
I bet he told all his buddies the vehicle cut him off.  Yeah, #@$%@ cage drivers!  All that dude needed was a red nose and big shoes.

As for the OP pic...I get the concept of "starving student", but that shouldnt lead to suicide.  Fraktard.

[somegirl]

23yoM Full time finance/pre-med student in sunny Miami, FL where it's always riding weather (except when it's raining) Any one else here from miami..?

Welcome, glad to hear you're finding good info here.  Check out the South Florida Ducati Brigade.

What's the most dangerous thing you've seen on another motorcycle?

That tire is something else.

I was a bit amazed when I saw someone trying to lane-split with crutches strapped cross-wise to the back of his bike.

[Slide Panda]

Whats so funny?  The passengers and driver of that vehicle should have stopped and helped the fallen rider.  What if the rider is seriously injured?  They could have offered to transport him/her to the nearest hospital instead of waiting for the ambulance and possibly saving his/her life.  I agree that it was a not so smart move by the rider but how would you like it if it was you and nobody stopped to help you?

I agree on the not so funny part, I'm not much for laughing at wrecks. Shaking my head, and a muttered 'Man, that was a bad idea' is my personal MO

Well, just to play devils advocate - it was obvious that assistance had already arrived in the form of the other riders.  The driver/passenger in the van was starting to panic "Dude they are going to kick our asses" so their logical state of mind is also in question...
Also if there was any significant injury, the rider would have been better off to wait for the ambulance and proper rescue than to try to be moved into some van. As we all know, things like spinal injuries can go from ok to very bad if not handled in the proper manner

Of course we'd all like someone to come to our aid in the case of something like this - that's not really a debate.

I cant imagine he was hurt.  Looks like he went into the bushes upright. 

Well, I've no idea to what happened after the end of the clip - but the Gap doesn't forgive off road adventures lightly. Once you're off the road, things drop off very quickly in some spots.

As noted, I added this since it was a dangerous thing - passing blind, on a very tight, technical road.

[miamiduc]

I was a bit amazed when I saw someone trying to lane-split with crutches strapped cross-wise to the back of his bike.

clearly someone who hasn't learned their lesson...

[Shifty]

Whats so funny?  The passengers and driver of that vehicle should have stopped and helped the fallen rider.  What if the rider is seriously injured?  They could have offered to transport him/her to the nearest hospital instead of waiting for the ambulance and possibly saving his/her life.  I agree that it was a not so smart move by the rider but how would you like it if it was you and nobody stopped to help you?

Oh, let me count the ways...

1. Someone is video taping the Gap drive from the passenger seat of a van.

2. Idiots on Harleys try and pass.

3. Said idiots fly right off the road in a perfect display of no fewer than three rookie mistakes.

4. Rather than assist these guys or even consider their well-being, driver of the van repeatedly calls rider a "make the beast with two backsing idiot".

5. Girl from the backseat: "Why would they do that?" <-- Because they were probably sick of following you at 10mph under the posted speed limit and you failed to move over for them (obviously speculating but this usually seems to be the case).

6. Camera guy says "They're going to beat our asses". Obviously watched too many movies.

7. "Yeah, go, get out of here". Seriously? You just left the scene of an accident you had a part in.

8. A few more "F***in IDIOT"s in there...

9. Driver: "I'd have pulled over if there had been a spot to pull over".  

etc...

Obviously the biker going down is terrible, but he was totally at fault. I agree the driver should have stopped and he's a moron alright. His dialogue was the funny part. HE was the idiot, not just the rider.

[Speeddog]

~snip~

7. "Yeah, go, get out of here". Seriously? You just left the scene of an accident you had a part in.

~snip~

AFAIK, unless the moto struck the van/RV, it's not involved in the accident.

Perhaps someone knowledgeable in the local vehicle code can confirm that.

[Slide Panda]

AFAIK, unless the moto struck the van/RV, it's not involved in the accident.

Perhaps someone knowledgeable in the local vehicle code can confirm that.

I'm not up on my Tenn laws - but it's pretty universal that if you were not involved, you don't have to stop.

It gets IZ_ when there's incidents like once vehicle cutting another off - the cut off vehicle crashes, but there's never any direct vehicle to vehicle contact - the old Left turning cage scenario. It's pretty clear in our heads that a car turning left across your nose is the direct cause of a spill - but it can be hard to prove if there's no evidence besides your word vs theirs and your torn up bike

In this case, yeah the van driver was going irritatingly slow it appears. But video can decieve - I've got films from the gap that seem slow while at my desk.. but I know we moving along. Either way, driving they way the van driver was would not put him at fault. Irritating, but not dangerous.

[Shifty]

In this case, yeah the van driver was going irritatingly slow it appears. But video can decieve - I've got films from the gap that seem slow while at my desk.. but I know we moving along. Either way, driving they way the van driver was would not put him at fault. Irritating, but not dangerous.

This is very true about the slow-looking video.

I always thought that if you were a witness to a crash you had to stay. IMO, if the van was the reason these guys passed and crashed they should have at least stayed to give a statement.