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Author Topic: Backfires + flames...good or bad?  (Read 4287 times)
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« on: May 24, 2008, 06:57:13 PM »

My 04 S4R (996 motor) has Arrow cans, no cat, and some kind of ECU treatment (previous owner did it all, I don't know the specifics).  It backfires pretty much every time I decelerate.  At night you can see 10-inch flames shooting out the tip* (now I know why the one exhaust company is call "BlueFlame"!). I think it's all great, the sound is fun and adds to the rawness of the bike, which I enjoy.

...but I was wondering if I should be concerned about anything going wrong, or perhaps that the backfires are evidence of something going wrong?

TTYS.  I can only get on the internet about twice a week so be patient if I'm slow with my responses.  Thanks all!

* - I can only see it coming out the top pipe, but I haven't exactly spent a long time riding around at night with the throttle shut off while I look behind me...
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« Reply #1 on: May 24, 2008, 07:25:33 PM »

if flames are shooting out, there is unburnt fuel, aka a rich condition going on. heat and pressure in your exahust causes it to ignite again. How do your sparkplugs look?
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« Reply #2 on: May 24, 2008, 07:41:43 PM »

My bike's definitely rich, you can smell it.  But I'm not real handy working on bikes.  What's the best way to get the best air/fuel ratio if the bike's not stock?  Do I have to dyno-tune it?

And again...aside from spark-plug fouling, backfiring is...fun/whatever/bad?
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« Reply #3 on: May 24, 2008, 09:08:28 PM »

backfires and 10 inch flames shooting out your exhaust?  good..bad?   








its freakin awesome!!!!

on topic, like he man said, its because your running rich.  i would try to pick the previous owners brain about the specifics of the modifications that were performed.  probably have him write it down, not to insult you but specifics sometimes get lost in translation.
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« Reply #4 on: May 24, 2008, 11:02:39 PM »

lift your tank. do you see a device that says POWERCOMMANDER ? or a box like object anywhere? if not. get a used ond and program that sucka, you might be able to get away with just going to the dealership and getting them to tweak the ecu a bit though.
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« Reply #5 on: May 25, 2008, 05:55:14 AM »

Your first step should be to contact the origional owner.  Before doing any modifications make sure all base settings are correct (TPS, idle CO, cylinder synch, etc).
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« Reply #6 on: May 25, 2008, 06:29:00 AM »

Or better: post a vid on the forum, so we can all enjoy the flames  Evil
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« Reply #7 on: May 25, 2008, 07:56:53 AM »

How come he gets flames & I don't???


I want flames too!!!

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« Reply #8 on: May 25, 2008, 08:26:12 AM »

At night you can see 10-inch flames shooting out the tip

Did you have to pay extra for that?  laughingdp Way cool  waytogo
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« Reply #9 on: May 25, 2008, 05:16:37 PM »

as cool as that is, it shouldn't be doing that, definitely should have your mixture fixed up
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« Reply #10 on: May 25, 2008, 09:53:23 PM »

backfires and 10 inch flames shooting out your exhaust?  good..bad?   








its freakin awesome!!!!

+1 - Gonna draw some attention from officer Bob though...

on topic, like he man said, its because your running rich.  i would try to pick the previous owners brain about the specifics of the modifications that were performed.  probably have him write it down, not to insult you but specifics sometimes get lost in translation.
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« Reply #11 on: May 26, 2008, 06:26:19 AM »

Try adding 2-3 degrees of advance.
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« Reply #12 on: May 27, 2008, 06:55:07 PM »

My 996 SPS does the same thing. Full 54mm Arrow system+some sort of chip- so says the owner. The bike runs rich 'cuz I can smell her too. Gonna have to do some diagnostic work to se if the cO and so forth are set correctly. FlightCycles gave her a once over and said thats to be expected.


BTW the Flames R-O-C-K!!! waytogo
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« Reply #13 on: May 27, 2008, 08:58:09 PM »

The only consequence of running rich (other than fuel economy.... bah) is that you'll eat spark plugs and overall, things will get pretty mucky over time.  You will notice your bike running worse and worse the more the gunk builds up.  It sounds like you might want to go for a dyno tune.
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« Reply #14 on: May 28, 2008, 08:35:16 AM »

sweeeeeeeeeeeeeet!  seriously.
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