WHY GP shift pattern???

Started by lwszabo, October 15, 2009, 09:34:38 AM

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lwszabo

It seems like it would be confussing....is it not just all gears are down instead of up???

Drjones

So you don't grind your toes off when up shifting at full lean in a corner.
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lwszabo

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wbeck257

When you are up-shifting you are accelerating.. it takes less time to press the shifter down than it does up.
When you are down-shifting you are decellerating.. you have more time to posistion your foot to press the shifter up to down shift.
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vwboomer

Additionally, if you are in race tuck, it's much easier to press down rather than trying to wedge your toe under the shifter.

I've had my Monster with GP shift for about 2 years and I really like it. Plus it's a great excuse not to let anyone ride your bike ;)
And FWIW I have no problems switching from the Duc to my GasGas with the standard 1d5u
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GLantern

Quote from: vwboomer on October 15, 2009, 10:31:31 AM
Additionally, if you are in race tuck, it's much easier to press down rather than trying to wedge your toe under the shifter.


That is the truth, on my 1098 try wedging your foot under the shifter at WOT.  I'm lucky to be hanging on!
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Cloner

Quote from: GLantern on October 15, 2009, 10:33:08 AM
That is the truth, on my 1098 try wedging your foot under the shifter at WOT.  I'm lucky to be hanging on!

My buddy Chuck Campbell and his friends Harry Vanderlinden and Kevin Schwantz were hanging around in the pits at VIR a few years ago.  They were party to a conversation that went something like this:

Rider 1:  I don't know why you don't change all your bikes to GP shift.  That's why I'm faster than you, 'cause I can shift easier leaned over than you can.
Rider 2:  I'm just used to shifting one down and five up, and I don't think it's hindering me.
Rider 1:  You're just being stubborn.  Mr. Schwantz, tell this moron why he needs to change to GP shift.
Schwantz:  I can't.....I've never ridden a bike with reverse shift.

End of conversation, to snickering from most of the bystanders present.

I figure if standard shift is good enough for a 500cc GP World Champion, it's good enough for me.
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it feels more natural to me.
My norton is the same (except on the other side). No problems going back and forth w/ the standard / Japanese pattern.
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Tommysurfs

Love my GP shift.  It seems to shift smoother also.

NAKID

I find less miss-shifts with my GP pattern...
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bryant8

Feels a lot more intuitive to me
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He Man

try it before you knock it. thats all i got to say and thats anyone who uses it will tell you.

corey

i often found myself struggling to upshift when under hard acceleration, especially in corners.
it became even more difficult with my rizoma rearsets. yea, they are uber-adjustable, but the shifting lever is just TIGHT.
i think i might give the ol' GP shift a try.
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GLantern

Quote from: corey on October 15, 2009, 05:49:11 PM
i often found myself struggling to upshift when under hard acceleration, especially in corners.
it became even more difficult with my rizoma rearsets. yea, they are uber-adjustable, but the shifting lever is just TIGHT.
i think i might give the ol' GP shift a try.

That was my problem Corey give it a shot you might be surprised how nice it is.


Quote from: Cloner on October 15, 2009, 11:23:26 AM
My buddy Chuck Campbell and his friends Harry Vanderlinden and Kevin Schwantz were hanging around in the pits at VIR a few years ago.  They were party to a conversation that went something like this:

Rider 1:  I don't know why you don't change all your bikes to GP shift.  That's why I'm faster than you, 'cause I can shift easier leaned over than you can.
Rider 2:  I'm just used to shifting one down and five up, and I don't think it's hindering me.
Rider 1:  You're just being stubborn.  Mr. Schwantz, tell this moron why he needs to change to GP shift.
Schwantz:  I can't.....I've never ridden a bike with reverse shift.

End of conversation, to snickering from most of the bystanders present.

I figure if standard shift is good enough for a 500cc GP World Champion, it's good enough for me.

Another point is when your on the bike you want to make sure you are upsetting the chassis as little as possible.  ESPECIALLY when leaned over so why not minimize the movements required to upshift by switching to a gp pattern?  Instead of moving my toe under the shifter i can just tap it down coming out of the corner keeping everything more stable.  Sure a regular pattern is fine for a 500cc motogp racer but aren't they professionals?  They are masters of the art of keeping a bike stable and we as average riders are not.  Why not make it easier on yourself and your machine and try a gp shift today?

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