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« on: October 18, 2009, 07:32:43 AM »

so I can't get the Tuff Shed I want due to city building codes.  For a structure of wood or over 6 feet tall, I need a 10 foot setback and the space I was going to use is only 11 feet wide.

But I still want to get all the chemicals and yard tools and stuff out of my garage.  Something less than 6 feet and made of metal would work but I can't seem to find anything that size.  Any other suggestions? 


I found some Rubbermaid closet type things but man they're expensive, and I'm concerned how they'll do in the sun (the side of my house gets sun all day).


Thanks.

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« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2009, 12:16:12 PM »

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« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2009, 02:26:33 PM »

hmm that might work.. but it's too tall.  I'm thinking I might need to build something myself to get around all the building codes.
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« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2009, 04:33:57 PM »

Usually the codes for sheds only apply to permanent structures. The moveable kits don't apply.

I've had a vinyl one in my sideyard for 5 years now and it looks like new.
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« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2009, 08:22:37 PM »

Usually the codes for sheds only apply to permanent structures. The moveable kits don't apply.

I've had a vinyl one in my sideyard for 5 years now and it looks like new.

hmm yeah that's a good point.  I looked in the building code and it doesn't say if it is permanent or not, but it does specify if the structure has a foundation.  Maybe I'll go down to city hall and see what they can tell me (if it's not furlough day).

STORAGE SHEDS AND PLAYHOUSES:

No setbacks shall be required for metal storage sheds and playhouses which do not exceed 120 square feet of floor area, are not set on a concrete foundation and are less than six (6) feet in height.

Storage sheds and playhouses which are made of wood or exceed 120 square feet of floor area or are set on a concrete foundation or exceed six (6) feet in height shall be required to observe the setback requirements (from property lines only) established in the zone for accessory structures.

 23.12.080 Side and rear yards except when modified standards are used.
 (a) Side yard setback requirements are as follows:
 (1) Main Building. Minimum setbacks shall be six (6) feet on one side and ten (10) feet on the opposite side, with the following exceptions:
 (A) On corner lots, the setback from the ultimate right-of-way to any  structure shall be twelve (12) feet.
 (B) The ten (10) foot setback shall be mandatory where the side yard of one  lot abuts the rear yard of the adjacent lot.
 (2) Room Additions and Accessory Structures. Minimum setback shall be the same as for main buildings per subsection (1); however, where the main building has an existing setback less than prescribed in subsection  (1), then a room addition and/or accessory structure may be constructed  to that existing setback.

thanks for the tip.
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« Reply #5 on: October 19, 2009, 08:04:46 AM »

what city is this? 

I am moving to a new spot and will likely need some sort of structure for my bikes as we're planning to use the garage for other purposes.

Fortunately there is a side gate and driveway next to the garage, originally designed for RV parking.
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« Reply #6 on: October 19, 2009, 09:42:53 AM »

Cool, your City is as mine. My shed is on a concrete slab in the side yard so for all practical purposes it's on a "concrete foundation" but the floor is vinyl and part of the structure. I bought mine at Lowes and it was available with extra sections to make it expandable. I bought one extra section so it's deep enough for multiple tools and junk in the back and can still fit a dirt bike and bicycles.

Found it: http://www.outstanding-keter.com/catalog-index.asp?cat=12&pr=2

Looks kinda cheap on-line but it's actually quite nice as far as sheds go. Lockable as well.
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« Reply #7 on: October 19, 2009, 11:46:42 AM »

http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10051&productId=100027479&langId=-1&catalogId=10053&ci_sku=100027479&ci_src=14110944&cm_mmc=shopping-_-googlebase-_-D28X-_-100027479

we got one of these...and have been very happy with it
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« Reply #8 on: October 20, 2009, 07:21:46 AM »


Found it: http://www.outstanding-keter.com/catalog-index.asp?cat=12&pr=2

Looks kinda cheap on-line but it's actually quite nice as far as sheds go. Lockable as well.
I've had one of the same plastic / vinyl sheds myself for years, and other than cleaning the occasional spiderweb off it it has been maintainence free. Not so a metal one I had years back which basically dissolved. AFAIK building codes do not apply to the plastic sheds
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« Reply #9 on: October 25, 2009, 03:46:49 PM »


actually that's one I was looking at.  Technically, it violates the code, being too tall.  But I'm thinking about talking to my neighbor first.  If it's not too much over the block wall I don't think she'll mind.  We've known each other for almost 30 years, so I'm hoping she'll be fine with it.  Then to just hope code enforcement doesn't randomly drive by and see it.

what city is this? 

I am moving to a new spot and will likely need some sort of structure for my bikes as we're planning to use the garage for other purposes.

Fortunately there is a side gate and driveway next to the garage, originally designed for RV parking.

Placentia.  I bet, though, that all cities have something similar in their building codes, so check first before you buy the shed.  I only checked to ensure I didn't need a building permit, and when I saw the setback rules.. I was pretty disappointed.  Here I am trying to spend money and stimulate the economy, and yet I can't.

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