Just wanted to let you all know

Started by He Man, October 20, 2009, 05:13:04 PM

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   Is it a Locktite issue? or just normal corrosion?  Every bolt from the original factory assembly seems super tight, I've replaced a few and antiseized them, torqued to ISO spec. and haven't had a problem, tho' they havn't been in critical spots.  just used zinc plated 10.9 steel, keep us informed of a better cure..
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Langanobob

Quote from: He Man on October 20, 2009, 09:07:06 PM
McMasters got some nice prices, thanks for the link speeddog!

McMaster-Carr is a great place.  They have literally everything, and at reasonable prices and stuff usually ships the same day. 

RB

had the same issue with my triples when i did the GSXR fork conversion.
I found that hitting the head of the bolt with a sizable hammer, and a good amount of force first helps convince the bolt to cooporate.
Now if you have a stripped allen head bolt, i have taken a torx bit and hammered it into the stripped bolt to the point that the bit cuts into the bolt head. But i think you said it was rotor bolts, and those are already torx, so a slot and should help. I would still hit it hard with a hammer first....makes you feel better also, just remember to focus your jedi hammer skilll as to not deflect impact to any other unsuspecting bits.

WetDuc

Quote from: Langanobob on October 21, 2009, 12:46:43 AM
McMaster-Carr is a great place.  They have literally everything, and at reasonable prices and stuff usually ships the same day. 
Definitely.  They are a good supply company.
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somegirl

Quote from: Langanobob on October 21, 2009, 12:46:43 AM
McMaster-Carr is a great place.  They have literally everything, and at reasonable prices and stuff usually ships the same day. 

+2, we use them a lot at my work. [thumbsup]
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NoisyDante

I rounded out the heads of two bolts on the handlebar clamp.  I tried everything from a torx bit, drilling it out, using easy outs, jb weld'ing a bit into them, applying heat, all those tricks.  In my frustration I finally grabbed another allen bit a little larger than the hole, hammered it in for a couple minutes, and that finally was enough contact for the torque wrench to work.  Very frustrating.
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64duc

  Easy way is to use a hammer operated impact driver to loosen the bolts. Works every time.

   FYI propane is probably not enough heat to do much good.
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He Man

okay now it deserves to be in tech. thanks ducpainter lol


why isnt propane good enough to melt the threadlocker? works great for me. when i flipped it over and heated up every bolt for 30 seconds they all came out easily.

IMHO the BEST way to remove a stripped bolt is to


Apply HEAT, slot it, and hit it with a screw driver and hammer. works everytime.

booger

Quote from: 64duc on October 21, 2009, 10:57:29 AM
FYI propane is probably not enough heat to do much good.

I disagree. Melting the fastener to the substrate is not the objective. Heating the area just enough so that any threadlocker is softened and slightly expanding the metal in the fastener so that any seized threads are freed is the objective. One doesn't drive 8 penny nails with a 12lb sledge.
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scott_araujo

Quote from: RB on October 21, 2009, 03:50:03 AM
had the same issue with my triples when i did the GSXR fork conversion.
I found that hitting the head of the bolt with a sizable hammer, and a good amount of force first helps convince the bolt to cooporate.

+1.  If a bolt doesn't feel like it's going to let go with reasonable force a shot of Liquid Wrench and a sharp whack with a small hammer is usually enough to loosen it and get it moving.  If it's in a tight spot you can insert an allen socket and hammer that.  It may ruin the socket but I'd rather do that than strip a bolt.

Also +1 on the fact that a propane torch will usually heat a bolt enough to soften threadlocker.

I think for Ducati OEM the gold colored bolts are the ones with the anti-corrosion coating, stopped using them around '03.  The sliver ones on later bikes corrode more easily.

Scott

greenmonster

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QuoteIf a bolt doesn't feel like it's going to let go with reasonable force a shot of Liquid Wrench and a sharp whack with a small hammer is usually enough to loosen it and get it moving.  If it's in a tight spot you can insert an allen socket and hammer that.  It may ruin the socket but I'd rather do that than strip a bolt.

+1, several hard whacks, then heat. Then WD40 over night.
And the hard part,
sometimes you just have to realize it`s a no-go and try next day.
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He Man

Quote from: greenmonster on October 21, 2009, 04:52:28 PM
sometimes you just have to realize it`s a no-go and try next day.

make the beast with two backs that shit. IF i start today, i intend to finish today.  [evil] I guess when i re-powdercoat my wheels ill have a nice video tutorial on how to get those make the beast with two backsers out eh? lol

the only reason i wanted to remove my rotors is because i didnt want to lay my rotors on my home made bead breaker.

RB

Quote from: He Man on October 21, 2009, 05:31:00 PM
snip.....

the only reason i wanted to remove my rotors is because i didnt want to lay my rotors on my home made bead breaker.
I don't believe you because there are no pictures...and no i didn't use the search function to find 'He Man's homemade bead breaker thingy'

ducpainter

Quote from: RB on October 22, 2009, 05:58:49 AM
I don't believe you because there are no pictures...and no i didn't use the search function to find 'He Man's homemade bead breaker thingy'
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Quote from: RB on October 22, 2009, 05:58:49 AM
I don't believe you because there are no pictures...and no i didn't use the search function to find 'He Man's homemade bead breaker thingy'


You cant call TTIUWOP if you dont search for it!

ok i lied. i never psoted pics up. but i did mention it here. Ill post pics of it when i borrow a camera... its made of scrap steel nad uses a gas pipe as levering arm. works great. Im building a "well" for it so i cam lay the rim on a piece of plastic and have the discs sit in the cavity next time. works great cause it weighs about 60lbs and doesnt require it to be bolted down anywhere. All you need is 2 tire irons and some plastic shims to keep them from scratching!

http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=22204.0