696 suspension geometry change

[ducpainter]

The rear spring on my S2R1000 is Linear. the 696 looks to be progressive though.

You sure?

[stopintime]

696 progressive
1100 linear

I have no idea what's in the forks though

S*R bikes are all linear rear springs (93.56 % sure), linkage make it work progressive.

[Howie]

If the spring spacing between the windings gets tighter you have a progressive spring.  The 696 spring is progressive.

[ducpainter]

696 progressive
1100 linear

I have no idea what's in the forks though

S*R bikes are all linear rear springs (93.56 % sure), linkage make it work progressive.

Ducati has been using progressive rear springs on Monsters since the beginning...

I'm skeptical that all of a sudden they've changed.

[Howie]

If Ducati's photographs are accurate (questionable), 696 and 1100 are progressive, 1100s linear.

If my memory is accurate (questionable), SR 1000 is linear.  All 2 valve DSS Monsters are progressive, no recall about the S4.

[Speeddog]

Ducati has been using progressive rear springs on Monsters since the beginning...

I'm skeptical that all of a sudden they've changed.

+1

I think the only Monster straight-rate shock springs are the ones that came on OEM Ohlins.

AFAIK, all Monster forks other than S4 and S4R,s,t came with progressive springs.

[Raux]

+1

I think the only Monster straight-rate shock springs are the ones that came on OEM Ohlins.

AFAIK, all Monster forks other than S4 and S4R,s,t came with progressive springs.

well that's good the S4R forks i picked up are the non-progressive.

Mouseman, tell me more about the spring.

[ducduc]

What is the big problem with these bikes suspensions?  Mine feels good but: 1. I haven't had it that long or ridden it very hard.  2.  I am 195lbs.

[d6a9p6]

I remember Randy Mamola oncw commenting that " He was the adjustable feature" on the bike he was to ride..  What works for 195 is too hard for 135.. Don

[DucatiTorrey]

So i think i need to upgrade my rear eventually. My wife and like to take the 696 to lake michigan in the summer an hour away, and the rear just isn't cutting it. way too soft, even for me, i weigh 210 lbs alone...

is my only option the $1700 1100 suspension?
http://www.store.commoto.com/ducati-monster-6961100-ohlins-rear-shock-p-4115.html

this is way too much, but i want something adjustable!
what about other showa shocks, i don't need ohlins, just a better than what i got now
thanks

[ducpainter]

So i think i need to upgrade my rear eventually. My wife and like to take the 696 to lake michigan in the summer an hour away, and the rear just isn't cutting it. way too soft, even for me, i weigh 210 lbs alone...

is my only option the $1700 1100 suspension?
http://www.store.commoto.com/ducati-monster-6961100-ohlins-rear-shock-p-4115.html

this is way too much, but i want something adjustable!
what about other showa shocks, i don't need ohlins, just a better than what i got now
thanks

The correct spring for your weight will go a long way to making that shock adequate for your use.

Try it before you drop that kind of money on a new blingy shock.

[stopintime]

So i think i need to upgrade my rear eventually. My wife and like to take the 696 to lake michigan in the summer an hour away, and the rear just isn't cutting it. way too soft, even for me, i weigh 210 lbs alone...

is my only option the $1700 1100 suspension?
http://www.store.commoto.com/ducati-monster-6961100-ohlins-rear-shock-p-4115.html

this is way too much, but i want something adjustable!
what about other showa shocks, i don't need ohlins, just a better than what i got now
thanks

When I got my new spring, riding with a passenger didn't feel wobbly at all. So, a +1 to what DP said.
If you want easy preload adjustability (remote clic clic wheel/nub mounted on the frame) to increase safety with a passenger - at least my shock manufacturer, WP, makes one for later upgrades. Costs about $250, but I don't know if it will suit your shock.

[z0mb1e_DUC]

search for the Ohlins DU 737.  I've seen them for around $700.  It's what I'm planning on using.  See below link.

http://www.ohlins.com/Our-products/Motorcycle/Products/Sport/DU-737/

EDIT:  Just looked at IndyDucati's project bike, it's the same shock. 

[DucatiTorrey]

The correct spring for your weight will go a long way to making that shock adequate for your use.

Try it before you drop that kind of money on a new blingy shock.

soooo, I can get a better spring alone? not a whole shock? hmmm

http://www.ohlins.com/Our-products/Motorcycle/Products/Sport/DU-737/

is this the 1100 shock? or an ohlins version of a 696

[Raux]

just took a look at my stock 696 shock vs an Ohlins race shock for Xaus' old bike. think i'm going to sway things out, but looks like an easy swap to change the spring one for one. the 696 definitely is a progressive spring and the Ohlins will be linear.

DucatiTorrey, maybe find an stiffer spring and just swap them out.