'05 S2R suspension upgrade

invisible monster · October 25, 2009, 02:58:02 PM

I have done some searching on this so don't flame me too hard if I've missed the 'S2R suspension upgrade' thread!

Anyway, I want to move to some sort of fully adjustable suspension for my '05 S2R. Have checked out the Ohlins route but would like to hear other options.

Thanks in advance.

stopintime · October 25, 2009, 03:11:56 PM

Front? Rear?

Front: you don't need to buy Ã–hlins, much can be done with linear springs and another oil/oil level.
Rear: Ã–hlins are great. I chose WP.

It's a tremendous upgrade for the S2R (800). When I started to investigate my options people told me I would get a better bike, I would get a new bike. They were absolutely right. Do it

Links:
http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=18081.0
http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=28037.0
http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=3882.0

duccarlos · October 25, 2009, 03:41:46 PM

I'll be doing this December. I know of a person that already replaced his fork innards with fully adjustable without having to replace the forks. I need to ask him again to send me the website where he bought them from, so I'll post here.

stopintime · October 25, 2009, 03:48:10 PM

Quote from: duccarlos on October 25, 2009, 03:41:46 PM
I'll be doing this December. I know of a person that already replaced his fork innards with fully adjustable without having to replace the forks. I need to ask him again to send me the website where he bought them from, so I'll post here.

Maybe it's this one?

http://www.carpimoto.com/content/prod/l_EN/s_6_Suspensions__Wheels/fi_17_Matris/pr_28217_Matris_Fork_Cartridge_Kit_for_Ducati_Monster_400_05__620__800_03_04_750_900ie_2002_S2R_800.htm

booger · October 25, 2009, 05:00:30 PM

Quote from: stopintime on October 25, 2009, 03:48:10 PM
Maybe it's this one?

http://www.carpimoto.com/content/prod/l_EN/s_6_Suspensions__Wheels/fi_17_Matris/pr_28217_Matris_Fork_Cartridge_Kit_for_Ducati_Monster_400_05__620__800_03_04_750_900ie_2002_S2R_800.htm

finally; never seen a kit for the nonadjustable Marzocchis

invisible monster · October 25, 2009, 07:11:37 PM

I want to upgrade suspension on both ends. Thanks for the links.

duccarlos · October 26, 2009, 04:47:59 AM

Not sure if it was the Matrix. Let me talk to him today.

corey · October 26, 2009, 05:23:38 AM

You can get the Matris cartridges through Paige & PJ over at pjsparts.com, if you don't feel like dealing with the language barrier at carpimoto. for the money, i think there are better routes to go.

duccarlos · October 26, 2009, 07:10:56 AM

Like? I don't want to replace my forks. Just wan to have some adjustables.

turbowagon · October 26, 2009, 08:39:40 AM

I had my suspension tuned by superbikeitalia.com and it made a huge improvement.
Their suggestion for the next step was to change the internal for the front and spring for the back, it will be much cheaper than replace with Ohlins and they can plate it gold(to look like ohline) if customer request.

duccarlos · October 26, 2009, 09:51:39 AM

I check with PJ's and it's going to cost almost $1k for the Matris cartridges. I can probably find some new forks that fit my bike for that much.

Charlief · October 26, 2009, 01:32:33 PM

Quote from: duccarlos on October 26, 2009, 09:51:39 AM
I check with PJ's and it's going to cost almost $1k for the Matris cartridges. I can probably find some new forks that fit my bike for that much.

Very true... but I have been looking and looking for a set of forks to fit the bike without going the SBK route. You can buy SBK forks all day long for $2-$300 on ebay. Try finding a set of Monster adjustables for that price! For some reason I have not seen them for less than $500. There's a set on here now off a S2R1000 for $600.

Then of course they would need to be resprung if you weight over 150 pounds.

duccarlos · October 26, 2009, 01:49:42 PM

Is there an option like Matris made in the US? It's ridiculous that they have to ship them over from Italy and the dollar being so weak against the euro.

BK_856er · October 26, 2009, 10:07:47 PM

Quote from: duccarlos on October 26, 2009, 01:49:42 PM
Is there an option like Matris made in the US? It's ridiculous that they have to ship them over from Italy and the dollar being so weak against the euro.

Penske should be able to fix you up with some internals, and they're in PA, USA. Cheaper? Nope.

Traxxion offers something, but if I remember right the external adjustment is limited to rebound.

Cogent was kicking around some ideas for the Marz forks last year - not sure if anything materialized yet.

BK

duccarlos · October 27, 2009, 05:48:14 AM

So it sounds like it's either Penske or Matris, but I think that simply replacing the forks might just be the cheaper option.

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