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Started by jamanta, November 03, 2009, 12:24:02 PM

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Monsterlover

#15
November 04, 2009, 12:16:21 PM
No, do tell.
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ducpainter

#16
November 04, 2009, 12:19:53 PM
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Monsterlover

#17
November 04, 2009, 12:43:02 PM
[roll]

nice.

How old is your bike?  I had a 2000 m900 that sat all winter 3x with no fogging and it was ok.

Possible they used different material for the valve seats?

What do you use to fog?
"The Vincent was like a bullet that went straight; the Ducati is like the magic bullet in Dallas that went sideways and hit JFK and the Governor of Texas at the same time."--HST    **"A man who works with his hands is a laborer.  A man who works with his hands and his brain is a craftsman.  A man who works with his hands, brains, and heart is an artist."  -Louis Nizer**

ducpainter

#18
November 04, 2009, 12:57:23 PM
Quote from: Monsterlover on November 04, 2009, 12:43:02 PM
[roll]

nice.

How old is your bike?  I had a 2000 m900 that sat all winter 3x with no fogging and it was ok.

Possible they used different material for the valve seats?

What do you use to fog?
My bike is a 96...bought used in 2000

I fogged it the first few years...then got lazy with no issues

They were using MBTE in the fuel up until last year when they started using 10% ethanol.

Coincidence? 

I'm not gonna chance it.

I use stuff in an aerosol can called 'fogging oil'. :P
"Once you accept that a child on the autistic spectrum experiences the world in
 a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
"Don't piss off old people The older we get, the less 'Life in Prison' is a deterrent."


scott_araujo

#19
November 04, 2009, 01:41:30 PM
No issues with clogging the injectors?  I've seen some complaints from 4 stroke outboard owners on that.

Scott

ducpainter

#20
November 04, 2009, 01:45:38 PM
Quote from: scott_araujo on November 04, 2009, 01:41:30 PM
No issues with clogging the injectors?  I've seen some complaints from 4 stroke outboard owners on that.

Scott
From fogging?

My monster is carbed. My 996 is injected.
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 a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
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scott_araujo

#21
November 04, 2009, 02:09:16 PM
Yeah, I saw some complaints from fogging both carbs and injectors on the outboard forums.  I tend to think it's from spraing too much oil down the intake and then the oil gunking up the small orifices in either.  Just curious.

Scott

jamanta

#22
November 04, 2009, 02:20:25 PM
Quote from: scott_araujo on November 04, 2009, 02:09:16 PM
Yeah, I saw some complaints from fogging both carbs and injectors on the outboard forums.  I tend to think it's from spraing too much oil down the intake and then the oil gunking up the small orifices in either.  Just curious.

Scott

so, after all... should i spray the intakes or just in the spark plugs ??

if i spray either way, i shouldn't have to start the bike ever 5 days or so, correct?

my whole point of starting the bike was to circulate the oil and avoid having to mess with fogging the engine... would that not work?

ducpainter

#23
November 04, 2009, 02:22:03 PM
Quote from: scott_araujo on November 04, 2009, 02:09:16 PM
Yeah, I saw some complaints from fogging both carbs and injectors on the outboard forums.  I tend to think it's from spraing too much oil down the intake and then the oil gunking up the small orifices in either.  Just curious.

Scott
I've personally never had any issues with the carbed bike and I know Bruce Meyers always recommended it in both carbed and FI bikes. That's where I got my info. I didn't do the 996 or the monster last year. I will do both this year.

He however didn't recommend killing the motor with the fogging oil. Just enough to make the bike smoke from the exhaust.

Quote from: jamanta on November 04, 2009, 02:20:25 PM
so, after all... should i spray the intakes or just in the spark plugs ??

if i spray either way, i shouldn't have to start the bike ever 5 days or so, correct?

my whole point of starting the bike was to circulate the oil and avoid having to mess with fogging the engine... would that not work?
Starting the bike and running for short periods causes condensation and creates other problems.

I don't recommend it.
"Once you accept that a child on the autistic spectrum experiences the world in
 a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
"Don't piss off old people The older we get, the less 'Life in Prison' is a deterrent."


scott_araujo

#24
November 04, 2009, 02:25:56 PM
Yup, fog it and forget it.  Just leave it until you start it in the spring.  Unless you're going to go for a good long ride regularly and really get it up to temp it does more harm than good to start it every few weeks.

Scott

jamanta

#25
November 04, 2009, 02:29:32 PM
Quote from: scott_araujo on November 04, 2009, 02:25:56 PM
Yup, fog it and forget it.  Just leave it until you start it in the spring.  Unless you're going to go for a good long ride regularly and really get it up to temp it does more harm than good to start it every few weeks.

Scott

awesome, i will do that.

i will spray into the intake with the bike running. can i spray into one intake or should i do both?

about the battery, would it be ok to leave it on the bike and just have the tender connected?

ducpainter

#26
November 04, 2009, 02:34:31 PM
You need to do both cylinders.

The tender will be fine.
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 a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
"Don't piss off old people The older we get, the less 'Life in Prison' is a deterrent."


jamanta

#27
November 04, 2009, 02:44:07 PM
Quote from: ducpainter on November 04, 2009, 02:34:31 PM
You need to do both cylinders.

The tender will be fine.

thanks. sorry for the questions. my first moto-winter :)

ducpainter

#28
November 04, 2009, 02:54:09 PM
Quote from: jamanta on November 04, 2009, 02:44:07 PM
thanks. sorry for the questions. my first moto-winter :)
Don't be sorry.

I'd rather answer your storage questions than try to figure out what's wrong in the spring. ;D
"Once you accept that a child on the autistic spectrum experiences the world in
 a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
"Don't piss off old people The older we get, the less 'Life in Prison' is a deterrent."


positivecarry

#29
November 04, 2009, 03:23:56 PM
How do I get to the intakes on a 2005 Monster 620 (another novice question)?
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