ok, this h1n1 bs is getting old....

[ducpainter]

Luck would really be the only explanation.

Just curious: how can you possibly know that you've never had an influenza infection? Many cases are essentially indistinguishable from a "cold."

If they're indistinguishable from a "cold" why get an immunization?

Is our population that weak that cold like diseases require immunization?

[darkduc7]

this guy fears no pig aids. h1n1 is seriously overhyped...ive had numerous coworkers get it, ive so far been fine, and they're symtoms were no worse than any normal flu.

[rgramjet]

Two weeks ago I said the same thing.....maybe I jinxed myself.  My tune has changed.

[akmnstr]

Two weeks ago I said the same thing.....maybe I jinxed myself.  My tune has changed.

Sorry dude.  If your not too weak to type.  Tell us more about how your feeling. 

[rgramjet]

Im coming around finally!  Last week I had 3 hard boiled eggs and a Nutri Grain bar.  Nausea sucks.  Tried to drink as much water/Gatorade as possible.  Hard to keep anything down.

This felt like a cold in the beginning, sore throat, occasional cough, no big deal....

My 7 year old son, Patient 0 in my house, started something Halloween morning.  By 3pm, he decided he couldnt go trick or treating,  Thats SICK for a seven year old!!  He had spikey fevers all day Sunday and a dry hacking cough.  Took him to doc on Monday. 

Tested him and said he has the H1N1, great....  Monday night, I got the chills and a nasty fever to add to my sore throat, swollen glands and dry cough.

The ferocity and non productivity of the cough is the most frustrating part of this flu stuff.  My ribs/chest felt like a couple of hippies were spinning around on my midsection.  Phlegm didnt start showing up untl Saturday night.

Unlike a cold, this hasnt cleared and gone away like the typical last day.  Damn cough is still there.  Going to see doc tomorrow so she can listen to the lungs.....its always good to go to the doc, shes Hawt!

[rgramjet]

Took my 3.5 year old twins to the doc today.  Theyve been sick too.  Doc said to watch out for secondary infection ie pneumonia, sinus or even ear infections.
These secondary infections can gain a foothold fast and cause serious problems because of the weakened immune system.

Be well!

[akmnstr]

Took my 3.5 year old twins to the doc today.  Theyve been sick too.  Doc said to watch out for secondary infection ie pneumonia, sinus or even ear infections.
These secondary infections can gain a foothold fast and cause serious problems because of the weakened immune system.

Be well!

Take care of those little ones.  Hope all of you are better soon.

[mstevens]

If they're indistinguishable from a "cold" why get an immunization?

Is our population that weak that cold like diseases require immunization?

Some influenza episodes in some people (especially those with strong immunity) can be very mild and hard to distinguish from other viral infections such as "colds." The same virus in a different person might be extremely serious.

There are lots of frail, old people. There are frail, young people, too. Add in the frail, immunocompromised people (from diseases, medications, etc.) and you've got a lot of people who can be killed by otherwise minor illnesses. They catch those from others who have not been immunized. Since their immune systems aren't up to snuff, getting vaccinated might not work very well for them. It might not work at all. For some immunizations, it may not be safe for an immunocompromised person to get it at all.

Immunization is only partly for the person immunized - it's primarily for the "herd." Only when a significant percentage of people are immunized does immunization really work very well.

When my daughter was getting chemotherapy, it was really only safe for her to be around people who had been immunized against everything available or who had already had all the childhood illnesses. Stuff that would have been an inconvenience for them could have killed her.

That's what immunization is actually for.

[herm]

so, its kinda like taking one for the team?

[ducpainter]

Some influenza episodes in some people (especially those with strong immunity) can be very mild and hard to distinguish from other viral infections such as "colds." The same virus in a different person might be extremely serious.

There are lots of frail, old people. There are frail, young people, too. Add in the frail, immunocompromised people (from diseases, medications, etc.) and you've got a lot of people who can be killed by otherwise minor illnesses. They catch those from others who have not been immunized. Since their immune systems aren't up to snuff, getting vaccinated might not work very well for them. It might not work at all. For some immunizations, it may not be safe for an immunocompromised person to get it at all.

Immunization is only partly for the person immunized - it's primarily for the "herd." Only when a significant percentage of people are immunized does immunization really work very well.

When my daughter was getting chemotherapy, it was really only safe for her to be around people who had been immunized against everything available or who had already had all the childhood illnesses. Stuff that would have been an inconvenience for them could have killed her.

That's what immunization is actually for.

I'm gonna back away this time out of respect for you Mark...

I just don't think we're on the right track with our penchant to have a sterilized society.

[rgramjet]

Im definitely Immunocompromised.....Ive got three little walking talking nose picking petri dishes that follow me everywhere...ya'll would be too!

[rgramjet]

I just don't think we're on the right track with our penchant to have a sterilized society.

Blast, cant believe Im doing this but.......

+1



Antibacterial soap will be our downfall!

[Statler]

This one is tough.   I agree with DP, and yet G has now seen this bug kill healthy people.   Her job and my job mean very very high exposure.   Sniffles and cough no matter how bad my family can rough it out and deal no problem....if there's a light at the end of the tunnel.     I don't like playing numbers game with my family about risk/benefit....but that's what we all individually have to decide.   

[mstevens]

I'm gonna back away this time out of respect for you Mark...

I just don't think we're on the right track with our penchant to have a sterilized society.

No need to back away - I agree that we're on the wrong track in trying to sterilize life. I also suspect like rgramjet that antibacterial soap might well eventually be our downfall.

I just have a problem with infectious diseases that people don't have to catch. We've eradicated smallpox (which was what vaccination was invented for in the first place). We've diminished infectious poliomyelitis, yellow fever, typhus, and a number of other things that had our grandparents, and in some cases our parents, quaking in their boots. Influenza once killed off a significant percentage of the world population in just a few years. I very seriously doubt this current incarnation is capable of doing that, but I can do my part to minimize spread by getting immunized. Yes, we have tough-to-treat bacterial infections but most bacterial infections can be treated. Viral infections are almost completely untreatable, so prevention is practically the only thing to do.

As Statler indirectly points out, I'm not actually in a high-risk group at 48. Sure, I'm almost guaranteed to get exposed and quite likely to get sick, but I'm not at all likely to become seriously ill. For whatever reason (cytokine storm?) it's the otherwise young, healthy people with really strong immune systems that seem to be at highest risk from this H1N1/09, just as seemed to be the case in 1918 where the case fatality rate was over 2.5%. It would surely suck if a college student came to see me when I had the 'flu, got sick and croaked as a result. It would also suck if I brought it home to my kid and he croaked. So, I get immunized.

[herm]

its a conspiracy


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