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Spring calculation help for a loveable fat man

Started by Michael, November 04, 2009, 11:54:10 AM

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scott_araujo

#45
November 23, 2009, 08:40:58 AM
200 is fine, maybe 20-30 minutes.  You want to be super careful not to go too hot on springs, you can ruin them.

Also, the paint may be super soft when it's hot so let it cool completely in the oven or have a nice little handle to grab it by.  If you grab the whole part with an oven mitt you may ruin the finish where you touch it.

Scott

Michael

#46
November 23, 2009, 08:48:13 AM
+1

You need to let it cool. I wouldn't even try to touch it or move it.

After 20 minutes, just turn off the oven, open the oven door, and let it sit for an hour.

ducpainter

#47
November 23, 2009, 01:16:54 PM
Quote from: djrashonal on November 23, 2009, 08:37:19 AM
awesome, thanks for the info! any particular temp/length of time to cook it at?
In the paint industry a 'standard' of 1400F won't hurt the paint or substrate.

Time varies by material, but 30-60 mins at full temp usually works.

The part will need a while to reach temp.
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djrashonal

#48
November 23, 2009, 01:22:15 PM
but if i put it in the oven, wont there be contact points on the baking sheet? will those spots be less cured or distorted or burn to the baking sheet?
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ducpainter

#49
November 23, 2009, 01:24:10 PM
Quote from: djrashonal on November 23, 2009, 01:22:15 PM
but if i put it in the oven, wont there be contact points on the baking sheet? will those spots be less cured or distorted or burn to the baking sheet?
yes...

DIY isn't easy. ;)

Figure a way to hang it with no contact anywhere that shows.
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 a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
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    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
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djrashonal

#50
November 23, 2009, 01:25:45 PM
Quote from: ducpainter on November 23, 2009, 01:24:10 PM
yes...

DIY isn't easy. ;)

Figure a way to hang it with no contact anywhere that shows.

i figured that was the case, didnt know if there was a trick or somethin
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ducpainter

#51
November 23, 2009, 01:38:26 PM
Quote from: djrashonal on November 23, 2009, 01:25:45 PM
i figured that was the case, didnt know if there was a trick or somethin
smoke and mirrors...
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 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
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    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
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scott_araujo

#52
November 23, 2009, 01:44:13 PM
If you can't hang it you can prop it up on some tiny metal nails or something.  Minimizes contact.

Wow DP, I didn't realize 140F was all you needed.  I don't think my oven even goes that low.

Scott

ducpainter

#53
November 23, 2009, 01:52:00 PM
Quote from: scott_araujo on November 23, 2009, 01:44:13 PM
If you can't hang it you can prop it up on some tiny metal nails or something.  Minimizes contact.

Wow DP, I didn't realize 140F was all you needed.  I don't think my oven even goes that low.

Scott
Keep in mind if you're painting cars there are plastics involved when you cook a job.

You can't heat things to a point where the plastic sags in the interior.

That's why I added 'varies' by material.

Auto paints are designed to fully cure with a bake of 140 for 30-60 minutes.

Rattle cans were never designed to be baked, and if you get them too hot too soon they'll wrinkle.

It truly isn't simple.
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 a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
"Don't piss off old people The older we get, the less 'Life in Prison' is a deterrent."


Michael

#54
November 23, 2009, 02:19:29 PM
ya, and on mine, I don't think it really made a difference.

If I were to start over and do this again, I probably would just skip the spring-in-the-oven step.

And when I did mine, I set a dry spring on a piece of foil on a cookie sheet and placed that in the oven. Some paint came off onto the foil, so ... there's that. But luckily no one will see it once the spring is installed.

Michael

#55
November 23, 2009, 03:11:21 PM
Any more comments on the video?

[popcorn]

ducpainter

#56
November 23, 2009, 03:15:59 PM
Quote from: Michael on November 23, 2009, 03:11:21 PM
Any more comments on the video?

[popcorn]
Yup...

post it in the tutorial section already... ;D
"Once you accept that a child on the autistic spectrum experiences the world in
 a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
"Don't piss off old people The older we get, the less 'Life in Prison' is a deterrent."


Michael

#57
November 23, 2009, 03:52:21 PM
Quote from: ducpainter on November 23, 2009, 03:15:59 PM
Yup...

post it in the tutorial section already... ;D

Thanks.  :)

I'm going to re-do and make a much nicer version, though.

I'm going to have a script, and actors, and a love story. It's going to be great.

ducpainter

#58
November 23, 2009, 03:55:33 PM
Quote from: Michael on November 23, 2009, 03:52:21 PM


Thanks.  :)

I'm going to re-do and make a much nicer version, though.

I'm going to have a script, and actors, and a love story. It's going to be great.


Who's gonna play you? [evil]
"Once you accept that a child on the autistic spectrum experiences the world in
 a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
"Don't piss off old people The older we get, the less 'Life in Prison' is a deterrent."


Michael

#59
November 23, 2009, 04:36:41 PM
Quote from: ducpainter on November 23, 2009, 03:55:33 PM
Who's gonna play you? [evil]

Angelina Jolie.



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