Shooting at Army Base.

[zzilla]

Dictionary.com defines terrorist as:


terâ‹...rorâ‹...ist
â€,â€,/ˈtÉ›rÉ™rɪst/ [ter-er-ist] Show IPA

â€"noun
1.    a person, usually a member of a group, who uses or advocates terrorism.
2.    a person who terrorizes or frightens others.
3.    (formerly) a member of a political group in Russia aiming at the demoralization of the government by terror.
4.    an agent or partisan of the revolutionary tribunal during the Reign of Terror in France.

â€"adjective
5.    of, pertaining to, or characteristic of terrorism or terrorists: terrorist tactics.

Origin:
1785â€"95; terror + -ist; cf. F terroriste

Related forms:
terâ‹...rorâ‹...isâ‹...tic, adjective

Fits the bill IMO

[zarn02]

Which part of that, exactly?

I'm not defending anything he did, I'm just saying that calling him a "terrorist," as commonly defined, is a claim not yet substantiated by anything I've heard or read.

[zarn02]

Murderer? Yup.
Crazy? Possibly.
Terrorist? Let's wait till we know a bit more.

[Kopfjäger]

Which part of that, exactly?

2.    a person who terrorizes or frightens others.

[zarn02]

That's overly broad.

That includes everyone from clowns to musicians to IRS agents.

[Kopfjäger]

That's overly broad.

That includes everyone from clowns to musicians to IRS agents.

Ok then, how about a Terrorist act.

S: (n) terrorism, act of terrorism, terrorist act (the calculated use of violence (or the threat of violence) against civilians in order to attain goals that are political or religious or ideological in nature; this is done through intimidation or coercion or instilling fear)

[zarn02]

Ok then, how about a Terrorist act.

S: (n) terrorism, act of terrorism, terrorist act (the calculated use of violence (or the threat of violence) against civilians in order to attain goals that are political or religious or ideological in nature; this is done through intimidation or coercion or instilling fear)

Okay, better.

Leaving aside that he did not predominantly attack civilians, we'll address the last part.

Can you cite a source where he states that his actions were "political or religious or ideological in nature," or are we just guessing?

To reiterate, I'm not defending anything, I'm just sick and tired of every goddamn thing being labeled "terrorism." He could simply be a guy who lost his head, and is therefore a garden-variety spree killer. It wouldn't make what he did any better or worse.

[Kopfjäger]

Okay, better.

Leaving aside that he did not predominantly attack civilians, we'll address the last part.

Can you cite a source where he states that his actions were "political or religious or ideological in nature," or are we just guessing?

To reiterate, I'm not defending anything, I'm just sick and tired of every goddamn thing being labeled "terrorism." He could simply be a guy who lost his head, and is therefore a garden-variety spree killer. It wouldn't make what he did any better or worse.

I'm not labeling shit. I was just looking up definitions.

I could give a make the beast with two backs what they call him.

He is a Scumbag piece of shit Coward.

[Rev. Millertime]

I'm not labeling shit. I was just looking up definitions.

I could give a make the beast with two backs what they call him.

He is a Scumbag piece of shit Coward.

AMEN

[cduarte]

Which part of that, exactly?

I'm not defending anything he did, I'm just saying that calling him a "terrorist," as commonly defined, is a claim not yet substantiated by anything I've heard or read.

  If it looks like a rat, smells like a rat, sounds like a rat, and acts like a rat, is it still a rat?

[derby]

  If it looks like a rat, smells like a rat, sounds like a rat, and acts like a rat, is it still a rat?

i suppose that depends on how you define a rat.

i personally feel that many people will never see beyond that fact that the attacker was a muslim and that this incident is possibly too complex to be defined in such a simple manner.

[akmnstr]

I'm not labeling shit. I was just looking up definitions.

I could give a make the beast with two backs what they call him.

He is a Scumbag piece of shit Coward.

Maybe this is not the best time to argue about definitions and terms used.  I don't see how an act of violence directed
at the military is terrorism.  I also can't see the guy as a Coward either.  He likely knew what was going to happen to him when he started shooting.  He had to expect to die.

I do think the people that he hurt the most, besides the ones he shot and those that loved them, are Muslim Americans and American's of mid-eastern heritage.  Damn fool.   

[Kopfjäger]

i personally feel that many people will never see beyond that fact that the attacker was a muslim and that this incident is possibly too complex to be defined in such a simple manner.

What should they be looking for?  The meaning of life according to "derby".

It's not complex at all. He was/is a (carrer) officer in the US Army. He betrayed an oath, among
other things. He was tormented by all the war stories the young troops told him about. He didn't
"want" to deploy. (He's a pussy)

He murdered and "Terrorized" a bunch of innocent folks. He is a make the beast with two backsing Coward, who just happens to be a Muslim.

[Kopfjäger]

Maybe this is not the best time to argue about definitions and terms used.  I don't see how an act of violence directed
at the military is terrorism.  I also can't see the guy as a Coward either.  
 

Don't even make the beast with two backsing get me started on answering that question. Best for you to put the
pipe down and step away from the keyboard.

[Raux]

he is as all terrorists are... someone who uses violence to make his views/agenda/goals a reality.
regardless of religion/political leanings, he used terror to get his point across. he's a terrorist.

now regarding his religion, all indications from witnesses to his life prior to this are saying he made a choice, religion over country, extremism over pacificism.

so, an extremist, muslim, terrorist. pretty easy to figure out. you don't have to be part of Al Queda to be one.