1000cc in 2012

[zooom]

I'm not surprised that such an announcement either got cancelled or lost in the tragedy.

I would say Suzuki conveniently swept it back under the table.....

[Triple J]

So how does a 1200cc twin qualify for moto1?

[avizpls]

This is stupid. Bring back tobacco money and while we're at it pharmaceutical companies can advertise on the track pavement. I dont care how, just bring back the good ol' days.

[gm2]

So how does a 1200cc twin qualify for moto1?

it doesn't.  but what are you talking about?

an suzuki, there's been no announcement so far.

[Raux]

OK I'm gonna try and figure this out

Moto3=250 4stroke
Moto2=Spec Honda motor
Moto1=1000 production motors
MotoGP=1000 prototypes

with the Moto1 and GP on the track at the same time

I read another article that said the conspiracy is Moto1 is the reason Ducati pulled out of WSBK since the Ducati owners and Dorna chief are buds and think WSBK is beneath them. And I believe that as I see the direction Ducati is taking in all their bikes.

i Know I'm questioning myself, but this still didnt make sense to me. Ducati doesn't make a 4valve 1000cc unless they will make a 1200 for the WSBK and 1000 for Moto1 

[gm2]

i Know I'm questioning myself, but this still didnt make sense to me. Ducati doesn't make a 4valve 1000cc unless they will make a 1200 for the WSBK and 1000 for Moto1 

CRT bikes may be based on production engines, don't have to be.  for those that do start with production-based engines (which appears to be 100% of the CRTs so far) none of them will be using a Ducati twin, because they can't.  CRT bikes are 'Machines of up to 1000cc, accepted as Claiming Rule Team (CRT) entries, with a minimum weight of 153kg.'

[zarn02]

i Know I'm questioning myself, but this still didnt make sense to me. Ducati doesn't make a 4valve 1000cc unless they will make a 1200 for the WSBK and 1000 for Moto1 

I think the bottom line here is that Ducati doesn't get to field a Moto1 bike, as 1200cc twins simply aren't provided for in the rules.

[zarn02]

pt 3:  http://motomatters.com/analysis/2011/10/31/the_2012_motogp_revolution_part_3_politi.html

Very interesting.

[derby]

I think the bottom line here is that Ducati doesn't get to field a Moto1 bike, as 1200cc twins simply aren't provided for in the rules.

...nobody says they can't build a different motor that conforms to the rules.

[zarn02]

...nobody says they can't build a different motor that conforms to the rules.

Well, true.

The implied subtext was "I think the bottom line here is that Ducati doesn't get to field a Moto1 bike using their current superbike engine, as 1200cc twins simply aren't provided for in the rules."

[Speeddog]

Well, Ducati (or anyone) can build a 1000cc twin, or a 1000cc triple.

But the maximum bore is still 81mm.

So the twin would have ~97mm stroke, and the triple would have ~64mm stroke.

They'd be interesting motors, but not competitive against 4-cylinder engines with 81mm bore.

[Raux]

Well, Ducati (or anyone) can build a 1000cc twin, or a 1000cc triple.

But the maximum bore is still 81mm.

So the twin would have ~97mm stroke, and the triple would have ~64mm stroke.
They'd be interesting motors, but not competitive against 4-cylinder engines with 81mm bore.

are u sure the bore limit is for moto one

[zooom]

are u sure the bore limit is for moto one

give it a few mins, but I am betting derby or gm2 or one of those guys will post the specific regulations....

[derby]

are u sure the bore limit is for moto one

yup...

max cylinders is 4
max bore is 81mm

somebody could make a twin, but there really isn't a point.

edit:

(old) 2012 regulations link:

http://motomatters.com/news/2010/02/17/motogp_2012_1000cc_regulations_more_fuel.html

[gm2]

comment at the end re 2013:  http://superbikeplanet.com/2011/Nov/111103ryderntes.htm