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« Reply #15 on: November 11, 2009, 04:35:03 AM »

It would be a grand finale for a wonder career.  Rossi should look closely at ending his career on a high note and not pull a Brett Favre!
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« Reply #16 on: November 11, 2009, 05:34:31 AM »

We wonder why new people post a few times and leave?  The "derby" shit is stupid and pushes people away.

now...back on subject...    I just finished Rossi's Book "What if I never tried?" and says several times how much he hates the Ducati mentality of it being about the bike and not the rider.  Would be quite the hypocrite to go with them.
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« Reply #17 on: November 11, 2009, 06:00:56 AM »

I will have to pick up the book.  Sounds like some interesting reading.  coffee
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« Reply #18 on: November 11, 2009, 09:25:15 AM »

Casey Stoner seems to be the only man in the world who can make the Ducati go fast.  Imagine if Rossi joined the team and ended up running mid-pack.  THAT would be a shot to the ego.
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« Reply #19 on: November 11, 2009, 09:47:43 AM »

We wonder why new people post a few times and leave?  The "derby" shit is stupid and pushes people away.

now...back on subject...    I just finished Rossi's Book "What if I never tried?" and says several times how much he hates the Ducati mentality of it being about the bike and not the rider.  Would be quite the hypocrite to go with them.

True, but hasn't Ducati started to get away from that mentality?  I know one of the reasons that wanted to try NH is because he and Stoner had somewhat similar motorcycling experiences growing up in the sport; i.e. dirt track background and actually liking the bikes to move around underneath them.  They sign Nicky and he can't quite come to grips with the GP9, so they actually start tweaking the bike around some more than just demanding that the rider adjust to accommodate the bike.  Then look what happens, Nicky starts getting better and better times and sees MUCH improvement over the course of the season.  Sure he still isn't quite up to the speeds that the four major contenders are at, but he has made major improvements.  I am thinking that Ducati has started to realize that they might actually have to be just as flexible with their design/set-up as they have previously demanded their riders be...
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« Reply #20 on: November 11, 2009, 09:48:31 AM »

We wonder why new people post a few times and leave?  The "derby" shit is stupid and pushes people away.

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« Reply #21 on: November 11, 2009, 09:52:32 AM »

i don't see rossi going to ducati, he is just saying that to sorta tick off yamaha in  a way of saying, i'll go to the other big boys and beat you if you don't give me tons of money for the next couple of years.

he is bluffing, unless he "wants" to come in second and 3rd in teh next couple of years he won't go to ducati, right now the yamahas are where its at for motogp if he wants numbers 9 and 10 world championships he shoudl stay right where he is. 

if he wants money to pay off his tax evasion debt then well he should hit ducati up for a huge payday then and come in 3-5th in the championships for the next few years and collect the big payday.

the ducati may be a fast bike but only stoner can get those times out of it, nobody else can, sure NH is improving on it, but he is not getting the pole position or the top 3 qualifying times.
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« Reply #22 on: November 11, 2009, 10:00:53 AM »

We wonder why new people post a few times and leave?  The "derby" shit is stupid and pushes people away.

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« Reply #23 on: November 11, 2009, 10:03:28 AM »

Casey Stoner seems to be the only man in the world who can make the Ducati go fast.  Imagine if Rossi joined the team and ended up running mid-pack.  THAT would be a shot to the ego.

pay attention to the post-season tests at all?
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« Reply #24 on: November 11, 2009, 10:05:26 AM »

True, but hasn't Ducati started to get away from that mentality?  I know one of the reasons that wanted to try NH is because he and Stoner had somewhat similar motorcycling experiences growing up in the sport; i.e. dirt track background and actually liking the bikes to move around underneath them.  They sign Nicky and he can't quite come to grips with the GP9, so they actually start tweaking the bike around some more than just demanding that the rider adjust to accommodate the bike.  Then look what happens, Nicky starts getting better and better times and sees MUCH improvement over the course of the season.  Sure he still isn't quite up to the speeds that the four major contenders are at, but he has made major improvements.  I am thinking that Ducati has started to realize that they might actually have to be just as flexible with their design/set-up as they have previously demanded their riders be...

they actually wanted nicky over stoner and initially signed casey after nicky (and two other guys) turned them down.
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« Reply #25 on: November 11, 2009, 10:13:49 AM »

let me introduce you guys to the 8th busiest board (by volume) on the dmf:

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we discuss stuff like racing and trackdays there.
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« Reply #26 on: November 11, 2009, 10:51:00 AM »

let me introduce you guys to the 8th busiest board (by volume) on the dmf:

racing & trackdays

we discuss stuff like racing and trackdays there.

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« Reply #27 on: November 11, 2009, 03:28:46 PM »

+8trillion

Is the reason I am much more of a lurker than a poster.

It is meant to be in fun, don't read too much into it.  Nobody seriously cares if a topic has been posted 3 times - but it is just better to add to a post from yesterday than have 3 new ones on the front page.

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« Reply #28 on: November 11, 2009, 05:33:14 PM »

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the ducati may be a fast bike but only stoner can get those times out of it, nobody else can, sure NH is improving on it, but he is not getting the pole position or the top 3 qualifying times

Session 3 - 11/11/09
Pos   Rider   Team   Fastest lap   Prev. Gap   Lead. Gap   Laps
1   Casey Stoner   Ducati Marlboro Team   1:31.900   -   -   35
2   Dani Pedrosa   Repsol Honda Team   1:31.944   +0.044   +0.044   38
3   Nicky Hayden   Ducati Marlboro Team   1:32.805   +0.861   +0.905   40
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« Reply #29 on: November 11, 2009, 06:04:48 PM »

as you posted those are times from a "post season" testing session. 

qualifying and race results are what counts.

these guys are all playing games and such with the bikes for "test sessions".  i have a feeling the ducati will be fast next season but without stoner on it, it doesn't place higher than 4th regardless of who is on it.
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