Frame sliders / Crash Bungs...easy to fit? Best brand?

Started by Lukey, May 27, 2008, 04:42:47 PM

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Lukey

Thinking this is an investment I should make for my '04 S4R.  The bike already has a thousand parts hanging off of it, so frame sliders aren't likely to make it look more cluttered.

Anybody have favorites?  What is known as the "best", if there is such a thing?  And is there any reason I wouldn't want to put them on?  Thanks and talk to you soon, Luke
'04 S4R (996 Motor)
-Arrow CF Exhaust
-RaceTech Gold Valve suspension F/R
-Precious little else because I like what Ducati came up with

teddy037.2

a much debated topic.

I like my cyclecats, even though they're big and ugly. they also paid for themselves after my low-speed highside  [thumbsup]

mxwinky

Just put Speedymoto sliders on both my Multistrada and my S4RS and it only took about 15-20 minutes to install each set.  Fit was perfect, they're not too gangly, and the red logo on the black slider makes for a good color combo.  I definitely think they're a worthwhile mod and the Speedymotos are a nice product.
If it's got two wheels and a motor, I like it!

Bizzarrini

Hi Guys!

Anyone ever used these?
http://www.rg-racing.com/browseBike/Ducati/Monster/1994/CP0149BL.aspx
These are the only ones my dealer sells, and I was wondering about your experiences! After a bit of reading on the net, I learned there are two types of sliders: the ones that break under large stress, and the ones that don't (duh). The reasoning behind the breaking is not to damage the engine and frame. Cyclecat used to make both types, but discontinued the rigid ones due to lack of demand (probably true for the rest of the line too, since they vanished?). No idea in which category the R&G slider fall!

Cheers!
"As a final touch, God created the Dutch"

MotoPsycho

Quote from: mxwinky on May 28, 2008, 12:04:45 AM
Just put Speedymoto sliders on both my Multistrada and my S4RS and it only took about 15-20 minutes to install each set.  Fit was perfect, they're not too gangly, and the red logo on the black slider makes for a good color combo.  I definitely think they're a worthwhile mod and the Speedymotos are a nice product.

+1 I really like my speedymoto sliders.
Edgar: '99 M750 - 2009 Indy Ducati Rat Bike Award Winner

numbskull

Quote from: mxwinky on May 28, 2008, 12:04:45 AM
Just put Speedymoto sliders on both my Multistrada and my S4RS and it only took about 15-20 minutes to install each set.  Fit was perfect, they're not too gangly, and the red logo on the black slider makes for a good color combo.  I definitely think they're a worthwhile mod and the Speedymotos are a nice product.

I have a question about installation. Do you recommend a professional do the install or can any weekend mechanic do it at home with a few basic tools?

Mduc

07 S2R1K

JoDuc

Quote from: DucAtomic on May 28, 2008, 09:50:50 AM
I have a question about installation. Do you recommend a professional do the install or can any weekend mechanic do it at home with a few basic tools?

+1

faolan01

installing the sliders is something any weekend wrench can do. I'm going to guess that the instructions are the same for all, but I know that with mine it was simply "Prop bike upright. Remove rubber plugs. Remove nut from right side. Insert slider into frame. Use rubber mallet to pound in slider bolt (the slider bolt drove the original bolt out in the process). Put on left slider. Torque down nuts. Ride." It took me about 15 minutes, including greasing the slider bolt and rechecking the instruction page over and over to make sure I wasn't going to screw anything up, from the time I put the bike up on the rear stand to the time I took it back down. I also grabbed the jack from the back of my car to put under the side of the engine in case I needed to prop the engine itself up at all to get the bolt through, but in my case it turned out to be unnecessary (YMMMV).

I also put the side of a small board against the bolt and hit that with the mallet to give myself a bigger target, and used the original engine bolt (once it was knocked out) to finish driving the slider bolt into the right side slider. Oh, and I had a buddy hold the bike because I was afraid hitting the bolt too hard and knocking the bike over ;)

teddy037.2

IIRC, I used a block of wood and a car jack to rest just under the engine, since the engine mount bolt is what you're removing.

but that was many moons ago.

numbskull

Quote from: faolan01 on May 28, 2008, 01:17:06 PM
installing the sliders is something any weekend wrench can do. I'm going to guess that the instructions are the same for all, but I know that with mine it was simply "Prop bike upright. Remove rubber plugs. Remove nut from right side. Insert slider into frame. Use rubber mallet to pound in slider bolt (the slider bolt drove the original bolt out in the process). Put on left slider. Torque down nuts. Ride." It took me about 15 minutes, including greasing the slider bolt and rechecking the instruction page over and over to make sure I wasn't going to screw anything up, from the time I put the bike up on the rear stand to the time I took it back down. I also grabbed the jack from the back of my car to put under the side of the engine in case I needed to prop the engine itself up at all to get the bolt through, but in my case it turned out to be unnecessary (YMMMV).

I also put the side of a small board against the bolt and hit that with the mallet to give myself a bigger target, and used the original engine bolt (once it was knocked out) to finish driving the slider bolt into the right side slider. Oh, and I had a buddy hold the bike because I was afraid hitting the bolt too hard and knocking the bike over ;)

Thanks for the detailed info. Sounds very easy to do. My chief concern was the engine falling out of the frame.  [thumbsup]

somegirl

Quote from: Bizzarrini on May 28, 2008, 02:05:19 AM
Hi Guys!

Anyone ever used these?
http://www.rg-racing.com/browseBike/Ducati/Monster/1994/CP0149BL.aspx
These are the only ones my dealer sells, and I was wondering about your experiences! After a bit of reading on the net, I learned there are two types of sliders: the ones that break under large stress, and the ones that don't (duh). The reasoning behind the breaking is not to damage the engine and frame. Cyclecat used to make both types, but discontinued the rigid ones due to lack of demand (probably true for the rest of the line too, since they vanished?). No idea in which category the R&G slider fall!

Cheers!

Yes, I have these on my bike.  They did very well in a low speed crash (the plastic got ground down and protected the rest of the bike).  I also have their bar-end sliders (same effect in the same crash) and fork sliders.
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mxwinky

Just to put your fears to rest, your engine will not fall out of the frame.  Can't happen.  The only thing that can happen is that there can be a very tiny amount of movement which will make it harder to get the new slider bolt into the frame/engine cases.  That's why it's advisable to drive the original out slightly and then use your new slider bolt to both drive out the original the rest of the way and drive itself in place.  A jack placed under the engine and very gently raised is a nice help here as it totally prevents any movement of the engine.  But fear not, the engine is held in by more than just the upper mount and will never fall out.  Totally easy to install and very doable by most home mechanics.  Good luck!
If it's got two wheels and a motor, I like it!

CairnsDuc

I have the SpeedyMotos, very easy to fit, Took all of 10 Mins, I hate the look of frame sliders, but I put them on to allow for the Dickhead factor where I work, It's sits out the front of a large Electrical retailer all day at the main entrance, I can see it from my position running the print lab, and so far (knock on wood) no one has touched it.
But I put them on just incase some Tool throws a leg over or some kid gives it a shove, they should stop mega damage from a simple tumble.