848 vs 749s

Started by He Man, December 02, 2009, 05:04:13 PM

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He Man

been thinking about getting an SBK. My friend wants to sell his 749s and get a CBR1000. But the only thing i dont like about the 749 is how unflickable it is. It steers like a brick. Is the 848 any different? I know the 748 is the same way as well.

If they total my bike out, i could afford an 749 easily. but an 848 would require me to dig deep. And DEFINTELY buying a cheap ass bike for my daily chores... my insurance would sky rocket to $1000 for liability only though. :(

Grampa

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Ducatl

#2
I vote 749, bonus points if it's red or black with white number plates and/or has the boxed swingarm.  I don't know how the model designations worked in terms of outfitting, did the 749S have the forged wheels?

Also, if a beater bike is in the works why not just keep the s2r? seems like this would save some dough ;D

He Man

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keeping the S2R = buying it back evne though i own the bike outright, thats if they total it.

if they pay for it to be fixed, like hell. ill just spend like $700 on a new master and to get the frame  straightened and im saving the rest for a rainy day.

would htat 1098 come with bobspapa delivery service too?  :)

Im also thinking about a Daytona 675

Grampa

Quote from: He Man on December 02, 2009, 05:25:43 PM
keeping the S2R = buying it back evne though i own the bike outright, thats if they total it.

if they pay for it to be fixed, like hell. ill just spend like $700 on a new master and to get the frame  straightened and im saving the rest for a rainy day.

would htat 1098 come with bobspapa delivery service too?  :)

Im also thinking about a Daytona 675

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Pedro-bot

A 749s that's "unflickable?" Really?
Probably needs some adjustment to the ride height/suspension. I have one and she is easy to point and hold in the direction you want it to go. Not saying it's better than an 848, but I think you underestimate the 749's potential.
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fasterblkduc

To answer your question, yes the 848 is a lot more flickable. You are absolutely right, the 749 does corner like a brick, and the 748/916 generation was much, much worse.
I am very impressed with the 848 handling. Out of all the Duc superbikes I've ridden on both street and track, the 848 wins easily in the handling department. It almost, (I stress almost) feels Japanese. It's very close to a middleweight as far as handling. Ducati nailed it with this chassis.

Now, having said all that, I still want a 749r. I've seen at least four sell this year for $10k, give or take a little bit. A race prepped 749r is still very cool to me and I'm one of the few that really likes the design. I would not get a 749 unless it was the R.
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I like the 675 much better and it will probably be my next bike.  I couldn't get the 848 to tip in worth a damn but I attributed it to poor setup.  The 675 was so smooth it made the duc feel like a tractor.
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He Man

haha, i like these responses. its nice to see the varying views of these bikes.

There are no 749Rs in my area that ive ever seen and the price is right on a 749s. I LOVE the 999/749 design. i think it looks awesome. but again, if you dont muscle the shit out of it, she wont want to go anywhere. Its no where near as flickable as my monster.

Quote from: Pedro-bot on December 02, 2009, 09:36:14 PM
but I think you underestimate the 749's potential.

Not trying to knock on the bike. i like it, it holds a great line and feels solid, but im not looking for an arm sore. The bike i rode had the rear jacked up another inch on the ride height. It was worst at stock height. you had to consciously snap the handle bars to get the bike to drop into a corner, but damn once it was there it felt solid!

A friend has an 09 675 that i dont think he would mind leting me take it out for a spin. THat just leaves an 848... theres a few 848s popping up for 9k. 749S for 6k and ive seen online sales of  09 daytona 675s for 7.5k OTD... theres a demo bike for 6k OTD too.


fasterblkduc

If you ride a 675, I'm afraid you will have your mind made up very quickly. Sorry to say this in front of all the Duc Fanboys around here but the 675 is simply amazing and is soooo much better than the 848.  [beer]
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lwszabo

wow I didnt know the 749 / 999 were that bad. guess its time to cross over to the Kawukiaha.

swampduc

Quote from: lwszabo on December 03, 2009, 05:25:39 AM
wow I didnt know the 749 / 999 were that bad. guess its time to cross over to the Kawukiaha.
Matter of individual taste. For example, I've seen all the comments about the 916/996/998 series turning like trucks, but I've never seen that to be the case. Maybe I'm just not good enough to feel held back by these incredible bikes. Or maybe some just like more of a feeling of stability from their bikes and don't mind a more "physical" riding style. If you're one of those, a Duc sbk might be the way to go.
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Bladecutter

He Man,

I hate to point out the obvious, but I don't think you should pick up a SBK with your current string of luck without full coverage insurance on it. Yes, its going to be fricking expensive, but since it sounds like your bike is left outside in the open a lot, your bike will vanish PDQ in NYC if you swap it out for a SBK.

Reconsider.

BC.

GLantern

Quote from: Bladecutter on December 03, 2009, 06:54:25 AM
He Man,

I hate to point out the obvious, but I don't think you should pick up a SBK with your current string of luck without full coverage insurance on it. Yes, its going to be fricking expensive, but since it sounds like your bike is left outside in the open a lot, your bike will vanish PDQ in NYC if you swap it out for a SBK.

Reconsider.

BC.

BC brings up a good point HeMan.  What you are thinking about doing i was actually going to mention to you but when putting it into perspective it might not be the best idea.  My advice would be to buy back the monster put the small amount into it to fix it and finish up school.  Put all the extra money aside until you can get out of the city and then when you leave NYC start looking for a SBK.

O and between the 749 and the 848 i would rather save a little bit longer and go for the 848.  Everyone states what an amazing handling bike it is and i almost wish i had one sometimes.  And don't forget longer service intervals and from what i hear that engine is much easier to work on yourself compared to the previous generations.  Correct me if i am wrong.
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Quote from: fasterblkduc on December 03, 2009, 04:31:19 AM
If you ride a 675, I'm afraid you will have your mind made up very quickly. Sorry to say this in front of all the Duc Fanboys around here but the 675 is simply amazing and is soooo much better than the 848.  [beer]

I agree, that's why I bought one.  ;D