If this isnt stolen i dont know what is

[junior varsity]

that's what the auto theft task force thought when they started confiscating gp bikes at oak hill raceway 10 years ago.

needless to say, somebody educated them.

wrong, that was no-title bikes. not no-VIN bikes.

[DarkMonster620]

wow, I was just kidding

Me 2

boredom can be interesting to watch...   

trying to keep it at civilized levels of conversation...not boredom

[ducpainter]

boredom can be interesting to watch...   

as can a freak show....

or a train wreck.

[hoyden]

from what I remember, it is illegal to knowingly sell or buy a vehicle with an erased or altered VIN number unless it has been reported as altered or changed.

[ducatiz]

from what I remember, it is illegal to knowingly sell or buy a vehicle with an erased or altered VIN number unless it has been reported as altered or changed.

what statute is that from?

the federal statute makes mere possession a felony.

[hoyden]

what statute is that from?

the federal statute makes mere possession a felony.

er. um...
y'know, I don't 'zactly remember.
I just remember learning it many years ago... (thus the disclaimer "from what I remember..."  )

[derby]

wrong, that was no-title bikes. not no-VIN bikes.

you're incorrect. 

[djrashonal]

you're incorrect.  

backing up that statement in 3....2.....1.....

[ducatiz]

backing up that statement in 3....2.....1.....

watch it, he'll author a wiki article on it faster than you can split a banana 

[djrashonal]

are we talkin splitin the banana by hand or with a knife? 

im not trying to say he isnt knowledgeable on the subject, just would like some background on why is all 

[derby]

im not trying to say he isnt knowledgeable on the subject, just would like some background on why is all 

that whole incident was a circus. the taskforce blocked the entrance/exit to the track and checked every motorcycle on the property. we continued to race while they did their inspections.

one of my friends had a nasty crash (fractured his neck/back) and had to be transported. he "wasn't available" when they came around to inspect his bike, so they impounded it. said the vin "looked funny." a few months later, after letting the bike sit outside in the rain, they finally decided nothing was wrong with the bike after all. my memory is IZ_, but i think they charged him for the storage/impound.

gp bikes don't have vins, so when they came across those in the inspections, they tried to impound them. there were some, uh, heated discussions regarding those bikes. they eventually relented and let the gp bikes go.

iirc, there were only a few bikes impounded and all but one was returned. when they whole thing was said and done, they found one stolen bike that been ridden to the track and belonged to a spectator.

[ducatiz]

that whole incident was a circus. the taskforce blocked the entrance/exit to the track and checked every motorcycle on the property. we continued to race while they did their inspections.

one of my friends had a nasty crash (fractured his neck/back) and had to be transported. he "wasn't available" when they came around to inspect his bike, so they impounded it. said the vin "looked funny." a few months later, after letting the bike sit outside in the rain, they finally decided nothing was wrong with the bike after all. my memory is IZ_, but i think they charged him for the storage/impound.

gp bikes don't have vins, so when they came across those in the inspections, they tried to impound them. there were some, uh, heated discussions regarding those bikes. they eventually relented and let the gp bikes go.

iirc, there were only a few bikes impounded and all but one was returned. when they whole thing was said and done, they found one stolen bike that been ridden to the track and belonged to a spectator.

jeezus, i would be grinding my teeth and .......

[He Man]

ready to sue? 


seriously though, couldn't you and conceivably win?  Id be pretty pissed if they literally stole my bike and threw it out in the rain.

[junior varsity]

that whole incident was a circus. the taskforce blocked the entrance/exit to the track and checked every motorcycle on the property. we continued to race while they did their inspections.

one of my friends had a nasty crash (fractured his neck/back) and had to be transported. he "wasn't available" when they came around to inspect his bike, so they impounded it. said the vin "looked funny." a few months later, after letting the bike sit outside in the rain, they finally decided nothing was wrong with the bike after all. my memory is IZ_, but i think they charged him for the storage/impound.

gp bikes don't have vins, so when they came across those in the inspections, they tried to impound them. there were some, uh, heated discussions regarding those bikes. they eventually relented and let the gp bikes go.

iirc, there were only a few bikes impounded and all but one was returned. when they whole thing was said and done, they found one stolen bike that been ridden to the track and belonged to a spectator.

I remember. There was a write up in one of the mags about it, with the bikes that ran open carbs. I believe you are referencing the subject of this thread:  No Title Track Bikes - Ducati.ms. Again, the cops were looking for titles. They were reinformed, as you put it, that the average joe doesn't bring his title to the track for race weekend OR for a trackday.

[junior varsity]

ready to sue? 


seriously though, couldn't you and conceivably win?  Id be pretty pissed if they literally stole my bike and threw it out in the rain.

Governmental Immunity goes pretty far.