Powder coat?

[DucNaked]

Can the stock master cylinder be disassembled and powdercoated? Bike is  a M11000.
thanks

[ducpainter]

Probably, but you won't find any replacement parts, like seals, if something goes wrong during dis/reassembly.

[He Man]

Probably, but you won't find any replacement parts, like seals, if something goes wrong during dis/reassembly.

+1, i have the goldlines on my S2R1k, and ive wanted to PC them black, but i cant find a rebuild kit. THats why i wont PC my brake calipers either. You can spray paint it with an enamel, it will be pretty strong, but not PC strong.

[DucNaked]

Thanks for the info guys.

[NorDog]

No rebuild kits?  Really?  What, do you just toss 'em when they go bad?

[corey]

Yea, you buy new ones... Brembo maintains that for safety reasons, they don't want "unqualified" individuals rebuilding their stuff, so they just up and stopped making rebuild kits.. Now you just have to fork over $400 for new calipers...

[He Man]

Yea, you buy new ones... Brembo maintains that for safety reasons, they don't want "unqualified" individuals rebuilding their stuff, so they just up and stopped making rebuild kits.. Now you just have to fork over $400 for new calipers...

thats what i heard too. i couldnt confirm this, but the lack of rebuild kits makes this pretty plausible. im pretty sure you could open it up and figure out wht parts you need...but honestly you really want to sacrafice your braking power (and life) to turn your gold lines black?

[Howie]

This is happening pretty much industry wide.  Rebuilding a coffin master that can be bought new for not much more than $100 is no longer cost effective for a shop at today's labor rates so there is reduced demand.  Then add liability to the mix, by by kits.

[ducpainter]

This is happening pretty much industry wide.  Rebuilding a coffin master that can be bought new for not much more than $100 is no longer cost effective for a shop at today's labor rates so there is reduced demand.  Then add liability to the mix, by by kits.

That's fine, but I think the kits are gone because Brembo wants to cut the liability. I can see a shop not being able to compete with the price of a new unit, but I can do a lot of work for $100.

[scott_araujo]

Sad.  Rebuilding brakes is not rocket science and can be very economical if you do it yourself.  I hate our throw away society.

Scott

[64duc]

 This happens with many different parts, not just brakes. My personal opinion? There is a lot more profit in a $400 brake set than a $25 kit. But what do I know? I'm a diehard cynic anyway.

[NorDog]

If I'm not mistaken, this has been done for some time with valve seats.  Instead of resurfacing them, they are replaces.  And when was the last time modern cylinders were bored out instead of replaced.  I don't think the Nikelsil linings allow for it.

[akmnstr]

If I'm not mistaken, this has been done for some time with valve seats.  Instead of resurfacing them, they are replaces.  And when was the last time modern cylinders were bored out instead of replaced.  I don't think the Nikelsil linings allow for it.

There are vendors that will bore you cylinders and then Nikelsil plate them for you.  Vendors like Calcycle works sell big bore pistons and then it is up to you to have your cylinders bored.

[scott_araujo]

When I was younger and rebuilding VW bugs the master cylinder rebuild kit was about $15, the master cylinder was $35.  No-brainer there but at least it was my option.  But $25 vs. $400 would make me a lot more willing to take it apart.  For Nikelsil cylinders, that's new technology.  it amy take a while for things to catch up.  A cast master cylinder is nothing special and the kit is basically a few o-rings and maybe a hone.  Maybe I'm just a cranky old fart.

Scott

[64duc]

+1 for us cranky old farts.