Cold weather start...

Started by Qfactor, December 17, 2009, 11:33:51 AM

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Qfactor

Any recommendations from Northern (Canada and Alaska) owners for cold weather start?

I have issues getting the thing started in the morning and late evenings.

Any tips and/or tricks? Block heaters? Throttle bodies heater?

I have been contemplating setting up a couple extra stick on grip heaters to the cases to induce some heat to the battery and throttle bodies. I read about this somewhere. Can't remember where tho.

thoughts? experience?

Q
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Speeddog

Which year and model of monster?

How old is your battery?
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He Man

FWIW, my 06 S2R1k doesnt start to well below 30. It takes about 4-5 cranks to fire up.

Qfactor

06 s2r 8

battery is roughly a 10months old... maintained properly (on the charger when in the garage). no way to plug it in @ work.

Q
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He Man


Qfactor

I mean, no start at all...

Spins, spins, spins, cough cough ..spins spins spins cough cough...etc...

battery weakens enough before it'll start. Gauges sweep slower than normal.

Q
"If your mom's got a schlong, run away, she's not your mom...."

Speeddog

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Qfactor

"If your mom's got a schlong, run away, she's not your mom...."

Triple J

Push it to some place warmer!  [cheeky]

No good info. here...other than to say my MTS1000 was always a pregnant dog to start below 35* or so...especially after sitting outside all day at work. It always did...but it was close sometimes, and I never really rode below 25*.

My Guzzi roars to life no matter how cold it is though.  [beer]

WetDuc

Try an O2 manipulator?  Are you still running the stock ECU?
2007 S2R1000, 2009 M696 & 2008 M695 (foster bikes)

He Man

S2Rs dont have O2 sensors.

Do you have a fast idle?

Ive tried to start my S2R1k in 10 degrees a few times. or even below that. its a pregnant dog. 10-15 cranks before it will even sound like it wants to start.

Dont know how to help you out. If you had a way to increase the fuel during start up that would be great.

Check out CA-Cycleworks sponsor page, there is something called AG Hammer Pulse Box. I was wondering what it was, and it may or may not help you in this situation.

ducpainter

Quote from: Qfactor on December 17, 2009, 11:33:51 AM
Any recommendations from Northern (Canada and Alaska) owners for cold weather start?

I have issues getting the thing started in the morning and late evenings.

Any tips and/or tricks? Block heaters? Throttle bodies heater?

I have been contemplating setting up a couple extra stick on grip heaters to the cases to induce some heat to the battery and throttle bodies. I read about this somewhere. Can't remember where tho.

thoughts? experience?

Q
Doood...

you're in MA.

Whatchou gonna do when it gets cold? [laugh]
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LowThudd

Quote from: Qfactor on December 17, 2009, 11:33:51 AM
Any recommendations from Northern (Canada and Alaska) owners for cold weather start?

I have issues getting the thing started in the morning and late evenings.

Any tips and/or tricks? Block heaters? Throttle bodies heater?

I have been contemplating setting up a couple extra stick on grip heaters to the cases to induce some heat to the battery and throttle bodies. I read about this somewhere. Can't remember where tho.

thoughts? experience?

This may seem strange, but what about a heating pad on or under the tank. If the fuel is warm, it might start better.

Q

AndrewNS

I'm up here in the frozen north (Canada), and my 06 S2R1000 actually starts pretty good in the cold. It seemed slightly better before I put the DP ECU on it, but even now it always catches if I crack the throttle just a hair while it's cranking.

And HeMan, I think a stock S2R1000 does have an O2 sensor. You only lose it when you splash out for the termi kit with the replacement ecu. Not that it makes much of a difference here.

Qfactor

S2r 800 here, no O2 sensor, just the fast idle.

Wouldn't start lastnight, as discussed above, not even a sputter or cough.

Started this am after 5-6 crank cycles. No tender or jumpers. Not sure if it'll start after a day of sitting in the breezy parking lot.

Motor temp finally showed a reading after 10mins warm up and 12miles of highway, went up to 132*, and didn't budge from there.

Q
"If your mom's got a schlong, run away, she's not your mom...."