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Started by greenmonster, December 27, 2009, 03:02:20 PM

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greenmonster

December 27, 2009, 03:02:20 PM Last Edit: January 12, 2010, 04:48:50 PM by greenmonster
Yup,
I like this little gadget... ;)

My father bought a 1981 gs-450 Suz 2cyl this summer to get his interest in bikes back.
He owned f e a Royal Enfield 2cyl 500cc back in the 50`s so I of course fully encourage him.
Gs450 has CDI f spark & mechanichal advance.
Tried w my spare M900 one, started but not perfect.

After mailing enough info of wiring etc, Ignitech shipped a module w 2 alternatives f
the gs450, one advance as is + one adv fixated.
My fathers bike been in an unheated barn f 4 months,
started on 3rd try. :)
Runs good now.

So, any old bike w an ign problem, give Ignitech a try.
They made several of the 80`s Eastern vehicles, like the Trabant f e, work.... :o


M900 -97 
MTS 1100s  -07

greenmonster

#1
December 28, 2009, 03:11:02 PM
In short,
If your 80`s bike w a CDI stops igniting,
try Ignitech.
It is very hard to find a early 80`s jap CDI when they fail,
& when you find one, it is expensive.
Just a tip. ;)
M900 -97 
MTS 1100s  -07

ducatiz

#2
January 05, 2010, 06:39:45 AM
I love my TCIP4 on my 900SS.  The ONLY thing I despise about it is the old school DB9 serial port connector.

There's no reason they couldn't put a USB port on it.  The PCIII's have them and they are more sophisticated than the Ignitech modules. 

They wouldn't have to change much, USB will map to serial just fine and they could possibly put a voltage sap in it too to power the TCI when it's on your desk.

I have a buddy who is a developer and when he has time he's writing a mini app so I can plug my blackberry into my PCIII.  If the Ignitech had USB, one could do the same thing.  FAR more portable than a laptop on the go. 
Check out my oil filter forensics thread!                     Offended? Click here
"Yelling out of cars, turning your speakers out the window to blast your music onto the street, setting off M-80 firecrackers, firing automatic weapons into the airâ€"these are all well and good. But none of them create a merry atmosphere of insouciance and bonhomie quite like a revving motorcycle.

greenmonster

#3
January 11, 2010, 07:07:20 AM
QuoteThere's no reason they couldn't put a USB port on it.

Answer fr Jan about this:
"We have both USB and COM on some new unit. There is big problems with USB if you want use it when bike is running. USB is very disturbance sensitive. Many PC cannot works with USB when bike is sparking."
M900 -97 
MTS 1100s  -07

ducatiz

#4
January 11, 2010, 11:23:54 AM
Quote from: greenmonster on January 11, 2010, 07:07:20 AM
Answer fr Jan about this:
"We have both USB and COM on some new unit. There is big problems with USB if you want use it when bike is running. USB is very disturbance sensitive. Many PC cannot works with USB when bike is sparking."

IT seems proper shielding should deal with this.  It's a huge pain in the ass if you have a laptop that's not 10 years old...
Check out my oil filter forensics thread!                     Offended? Click here
"Yelling out of cars, turning your speakers out the window to blast your music onto the street, setting off M-80 firecrackers, firing automatic weapons into the airâ€"these are all well and good. But none of them create a merry atmosphere of insouciance and bonhomie quite like a revving motorcycle.

greenmonster

#5
January 12, 2010, 07:10:35 AM
Well,
I just got 14 10 y o laps f free!
OS W98, perfect in your garage f WS manual/spare part PDF`s, pics of mods etc.
And tuning my Ignitech ignition & MyECU on the 907IE w it.
Everybody should have a garage PC, saves trees, recycling etc. :)
M900 -97 
MTS 1100s  -07

ducatiz

#6
January 12, 2010, 08:44:50 AM Last Edit: January 12, 2010, 08:46:54 AM by ducatiz
Quote from: greenmonster on January 12, 2010, 07:10:35 AM
Well,
I just got 14 10 y o laps f free!
OS W98, perfect in your garage f WS manual/spare part PDF`s, pics of mods etc.
And tuning my Ignitech ignition & MyECU on the 907IE w it.
Everybody should have a garage PC, saves trees, recycling etc. :)

if you can get them for free, then email this to ignitech and maybe they can provide a free old laptop with their TCIP4? 

that is my ONLY pregnant dog about the unit.  the fact is, once you've got it tuned for your bike, unless you are changing stuff often, you don't need to get into it much.  I ~~LOVE~~ my TCIp4 on my 900ss.  I cannot rave about them enough.

But just comparing the TCIP4 unit to the PCIIIusb unit, the TCIP4 has that manky serial cable hanging off.  At least get rid of the wires and put the RS9 directly onto the box.. :D
Check out my oil filter forensics thread!                     Offended? Click here
"Yelling out of cars, turning your speakers out the window to blast your music onto the street, setting off M-80 firecrackers, firing automatic weapons into the airâ€"these are all well and good. But none of them create a merry atmosphere of insouciance and bonhomie quite like a revving motorcycle.

junior varsity

#7
January 12, 2010, 02:28:06 PM
ducatiz, how did you go about tuning the tcip4 for your 900ss? Dyno or by looking at the DP1.1/2.4 charts and shooting for those #'s?

Just what kind of curve are you running?

greenmonster

#8
January 12, 2010, 04:47:42 PM
The USB/COM issue may have more things to it than we know, Nemesis have both now,
this quite recent has COM:



http://www.microtech-efi.com/product/4.html


Just meant before that it`s quite a good thing to recycle old laps as garage PC's,
boat GPS`s etc. Check around, I`ll bet you can also find one fr the former century f almost nothing! ;)
M900 -97 
MTS 1100s  -07

ducatiz

#9
January 12, 2010, 04:49:28 PM
Quote from: ato memphis on January 12, 2010, 02:28:06 PM
ducatiz, how did you go about tuning the tcip4 for your 900ss? Dyno or by looking at the DP1.1/2.4 charts and shooting for those #'s?

Just what kind of curve are you running?

dyno.  they sent it with a pre-set curve based on the DP 1.1 modules, but it has more steps so it was a smoother curve.  that was the starting point.

stock crank, lightened flywheel, bucci alu clutch, stock carbs with a jet kit.

the difference is pretty noticeable, even with the canned curve.

i'd like to swap to FCRs but I am looking for a TPS module to fit so I can use it for retard.  the TCI has quite a few input options and one is for a TPS which allows retard.
Check out my oil filter forensics thread!                     Offended? Click here
"Yelling out of cars, turning your speakers out the window to blast your music onto the street, setting off M-80 firecrackers, firing automatic weapons into the airâ€"these are all well and good. But none of them create a merry atmosphere of insouciance and bonhomie quite like a revving motorcycle.

junior varsity

#10
January 12, 2010, 04:52:35 PM
any chance you could post up the 10 rpm / advance points?

I'm hoping to compile a robust spreadsheet to show what people are running and by category of engine work

ducatiz

#11
January 12, 2010, 05:24:15 PM
Quote from: ato memphis on January 12, 2010, 04:52:35 PM
any chance you could post up the 10 rpm / advance points?

I'm hoping to compile a robust spreadsheet to show what people are running and by category of engine work

sure, i need to download it though.  i had an old POS laptop that has since grenaded so i don't have the map stored.  let me figure out a way to get it off.

Check out my oil filter forensics thread!                     Offended? Click here
"Yelling out of cars, turning your speakers out the window to blast your music onto the street, setting off M-80 firecrackers, firing automatic weapons into the airâ€"these are all well and good. But none of them create a merry atmosphere of insouciance and bonhomie quite like a revving motorcycle.

junior varsity

#12
January 13, 2010, 05:36:05 AM
Very cool.

When you plug in, and open the program, you should be able to click "READ" at the top, and that'll take what's on the unit and put it on your PC.

ducatiz

#13
January 13, 2010, 05:38:40 AM
Quote from: ato memphis on January 13, 2010, 05:36:05 AM
Very cool.

When you plug in, and open the program, you should be able to click "READ" at the top, and that'll take what's on the unit and put it on your PC.

yes, dear.  you sound like my wife.

if you only knew how familiar i am with this setup, you'd be shocked.  i bought a second one and might be putting a hacksaw on it soon... :D
Check out my oil filter forensics thread!                     Offended? Click here
"Yelling out of cars, turning your speakers out the window to blast your music onto the street, setting off M-80 firecrackers, firing automatic weapons into the airâ€"these are all well and good. But none of them create a merry atmosphere of insouciance and bonhomie quite like a revving motorcycle.

junior varsity

#14
January 13, 2010, 06:41:43 AM
wow! you are far braver than I. Didn't know if you knew you could simply "read" the unit
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