Pazzo vs. CRG adjustable levers Now with Pics!

Started by Smiling End, May 28, 2008, 06:28:50 PM

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Smiling End

Quote from: psycledelic on June 09, 2008, 07:32:04 AM
I am curious about the adjustment.  It looks like there are 6 settings on the Pazzo's.  Is 3/4 close to stock length of pull, or is a majority of the adjustment range in one direction?

Yeah, I've got 6 settings on my Pazzo's.  It seems to me that 6 is the closest to stock range.
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psycledelic

Quote from: Smiling End on June 09, 2008, 08:29:48 AM
Yeah, I've got 6 settings on my Pazzo's.  It seems to me that 6 is the closest to stock range.

Which end of the range of travel is 6?  Is all of the adjustment you have left moving away from the bar or towards it?  (Sorry for all of the questions, I was just hoping to find levers that would be able to sit a little closer to the bar.  I have an awful lot of pull on my bike.)
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Smiling End

Quote from: psycledelic on June 09, 2008, 01:38:08 PM
Which end of the range of travel is 6?  Is all of the adjustment you have left moving away from the bar or towards it?  (Sorry for all of the questions, I was just hoping to find levers that would be able to sit a little closer to the bar.  I have an awful lot of pull on my bike.)

No problem.  I'm glad to help (if I am helping).  6 is the furthest from the handlebars and each click brings it closer.  I found 1 to be too close for me and have my clutch on 3 and my brake on 2.  Just so you know the strength required for the pull doesn't change just the length of the pull. 
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Punkass2112

Get the ASV levers. They have almost 200 adjustment positions I shit you not. They also have a more comfortable lever shape IMO.

They also have a 5 year unbreakable guarantee.



Ivan

Quote from: Punkass2112 on June 09, 2008, 09:01:10 PM
Get the ASV levers. They have almost 200 adjustment positions I shit you not. They also have a more comfortable lever shape IMO.

They also have a 5 year unbreakable guarantee.


If you're gonna jack the thread, do it right.  Tell us about those ASV levers.  Do they come with the switches built in?  Do they work with the remote reservoir type master cylinders?  Any installation issues?
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Quote from: Punkass2112 on June 09, 2008, 09:01:10 PM
Get the ASV levers. They have almost 200 adjustment positions I shit you not. They also have a more comfortable lever shape IMO.

They also have a 5 year unbreakable guarantee.


Besides not knowing how these actually work on Monsters, I have 3 concerns about these levers:

1) They've got "ASV" plastered on the outside for the world to see. My bike is not a rolling billboard.

2) 200 positions is WAY too many. Why is that a problem? Well, for one thing, at some point someone's going to mess with them. With a small number of potential settings it takes only a second to put the settings back where they belong. With 200, it could take forever. There's also an issue of futzing with them while riding. That can only be a bad thing, but at least with a small number of settings that'll get boring fast and the rider will move on to paying attention to riding. That much adjustability means that there really isn't any significant difference from one setting to the next. More is not always better!

3) Nothing is unbreakable. I tend to distrust companies that claim they make something that is unbreakable.
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jclin

Quote from: Punkass2112 on June 09, 2008, 09:01:10 PM
Get the ASV levers. They have almost 200 adjustment positions I shit you not. They also have a more comfortable lever shape IMO.

They also have a 5 year unbreakable guarantee.


200 where 6 is good enough seems a bit excessive. I'd be cool (but rather useless) if you could adjust perpendicular to the normal adjustments (up and down). Other than that, why bother with 200 positions going back and forth?

Just my opinion, but I don't mind companies saying their product is unbreakable. If that's true, slap on a lifetime guarantee and I'll trust you're right. Otherwise, don't wuss out with five years (despite the fact that 5 years is quite a long time... but Hello!! You said UNBREAKABLE!....).

teddy037.2

Quote from: mstevens on June 09, 2008, 09:49:55 PM
They've got "ASV" plastered on the outside for the world to see. My bike is not a rolling billboard.

so... you've taken the ducati stickers off your tank and found a way to fill in the clutch side cover, have you?  [cheeky]

mstevens

Quote from: teddy037.2 on June 10, 2008, 09:26:57 PM
so... you've taken the ducati stickers off your tank and found a way to fill in the clutch side cover, have you?  [cheeky]

Well, no, but my bike isn't an ASV, whatever that is. I'm certainly not going to add anything with names or logos to the bike, including anything that says Ducati.
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supakpow2

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About the ASV levers....I saw them at Laguna Seca last year and I have to say that I would buy them over the CRG or Pazzo sets.  [thumbsup](I've seen and used both) They are a very high quality fit and finish even at the price.They also move like velvet over you butt. ;D VERY smooth!
As for the unbreakable and 200 thing---- the only thing you'll complain about when you dump your bike with Pazzos or GRGs is the 200 bucks you'll spend to replace them.  (I know they come in singles and are half the cost, but still.) Most people will not have the same bike 5 years from now anyway. Besides I think it's not 200 adj points but 100 per lever.

Good selling point for a used bike to have warranty left on the levers.  They also will fix it or replace it for free if it you damage it in any way. Great customer policy there. They also avoid the whole Pazzo ripped off CRG issue.
The fact is is that all these levers are a major improvement in looks and performance from stock .

BTW... CRG and Pazzo also have their names on their levers, as well as Termis, Arrows, BST, Marchesinis, Rizomas...etc.
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Smiling End

Quote from: supakpow2 on June 10, 2008, 11:58:05 PM


BTW... CRG and Pazzo also have their names on their levers, as well as Termis, Arrows, BST, Marchesinis, Rizomas...etc.
KP


Yeah but the Pazzo's, and I believe the CRG's, have the branding on the inside of the lever vs the ASV's that have it on the outside. 
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yeah, but the ASVs logo is covered by your hand while riding, so what's the big deal?

Parking too much in front of the starbucks recently?   [cheeky]

Privateer

Quote from: ato memphis on June 13, 2008, 02:08:56 PM
yeah, but the ASVs logo is covered by your hand while riding, so what's the big deal?

I'm wondering if the ASVs are available for an 04 620, anyone know?  Last email I sent them said "next month" but from what I understand, they've been saying 'next month' for a while.



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Quote from: teddy037.2 on May 29, 2008, 06:57:20 PM
call me  picky, but I'm just not fond of the machined finish on the pazzos.

You're picky!  But you are a machinist after all, so it's all good.   [cheeky]