Looking for gun nut advice

Started by angler, January 04, 2010, 10:57:25 AM

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angler

I want to buy something semi-auto in the .308 caliber.  I'm currently looking at a LaRue forged receiver M1A or a LWRC REPR.

Does anybody know anything about LWRC?
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Punx Clever

Looks like a gas-piston Stoner variant with a modified charging mechanism chambered for .308.  Quite a few neat ideas incorporated in  one platform.

The big drawback to the Stoner design was the gas system (direct impingement) because it has a nasty habit of building up carbon deposits on the bolt and receiver while burning off lubrication.  Much simpler, but less reliable.  I'm looking for piston uppers for me AR15 right now to be honest.

The side charging handle is neat from the standpoint of not having to remove your eyes from the scope to reload... but with a 20rd clip I don't see the need. 

Both the stoner design and the M1A sort of designs are good (my old man has a socom II), the M1A is definitely heavier in my opinion though and the pistol grip is a must have for me in a semi-auto.  I'd go with a .308 stoner over the M1A most any day.  however, if you are in California (or any other gun-nazi state) you are probably better off with the M1A because you get around the assault rifle thing by not having the pistol grip.
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Quote from: Punx Clever on January 04, 2010, 11:51:06 AM
Looks like a gas-piston Stoner variant with a modified charging mechanism chambered for .308.  Quite a few neat ideas incorporated in  one platform.

The big drawback to the Stoner design was the gas system (direct impingement) because it has a nasty habit of building up carbon deposits on the bolt and receiver while burning off lubrication.  Much simpler, but less reliable.

I always liked the H&K rolloer lock mechanism for that reason. And I am in CA or I'd probably own one by now. Delayed blowback action, and the fluted chamber is reliable even in extreme temps.

Shouldn't this be in the NoMoto section, or are you planing a side mount on your duc?lol

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cduarte

#4
the rock river has a weak bolt which was required to allow the use of FAL mags. As far as stoner vs HK, I'll take a rifle that doesn't destroy the brass vs one that does, and fluted chambers really really suck. If you want a battle rifle, you could do far worse than an FAL and DSA makes really nice ones. Adjustable gas system, proven design and inexpensive magazines. Alternatively, you could just pick up a garand from the CMP and get it rebarrelled in .308. I have a couple in that caliber, and they work quite well, the enbloc clips are readily available, reusable and extremely inexpensive.

Just wanted to add that I put thousands of rounds downrange with my direct impingement m-16 full auto, and I never had a problem with reliability other than melting a gas tube which was after multiple beta c dumps with full tracer. I really wish I hadn't sold it.
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angler

Awesome stuff.  I had also been looking at both the HK and the FAL.  I meant to put this in No Moto, but I screwed that one up.  How does one go about moving a topic?
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cduarte

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ducpainter

Quote from: angler on January 04, 2010, 12:59:12 PM
Awesome stuff.  I had also been looking at both the HK and the FAL.  I meant to put this in No Moto, but I screwed that one up.  How does one go about moving a topic?
Quote from: cduarte on January 04, 2010, 01:07:59 PM
ask a mod, they can do it.

FTR...

the OP can move their own thread.

Scroll to the bottom of the page and you should see some options to lock and move your topic.

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fastwin

Quote from: cduarte on January 04, 2010, 12:50:55 PM
the rock river has a weak bolt which was required to allow the use of FAL mags. As far as stoner vs HK, I'll take a rifle that doesn't destroy the brass vs one that does, and fluted chambers really really suck. If you want a battle rifle, you could do far worse than an FAL and DSA makes really nice ones. Adjustable gas system, proven design and inexpensive magazines. Alternatively, you could just pick up a garand from the CMP and get it rebarrelled in .308. I have a couple in that caliber, and they work quite well, the enbloc clips are readily available, reusable and extremely inexpensive.

Just wanted to add that I put thousands of rounds downrange with my direct impingement m-16 full auto, and I never had a problem with reliability other than melting a gas tube which was after multiple beta c dumps with full tracer. I really wish I hadn't sold it.

I agree. I've had HK91s, many M1As and a lot of Belguim FN/FALs (including G series sear cut FALs). HKs do indeed dent brass, even with the ejection port snap on rubber bumper. Still a good hardy battle rifle. I love my M1As and my FALs... but I love my FALs just a little more. [thumbsup] Thought about a SOCOM/M1A for fun but I have enough crap to keep up with already. Check out the DSA FAL rifles. Don't have a DSA version but I have read torture tests on them and they held up very well. I like what I have heard and read.

cduarte

btw, if you want something really exotic, check out this little toy I just bought.



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angler

Quote from: ducpainter on January 04, 2010, 01:10:10 PM

the OP can move their own thread.

Scroll to the bottom of the page and you should see some options to lock and move your topic.

I got this one for ya.

Duh.....Thanks DP
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fastwin

Quote from: cduarte on January 04, 2010, 01:18:39 PM
btw, if you want something really exotic, check out this little toy I just bought.



btw, it's italian... [bacon]



Very cool, a Beretta BM59! I had friend that had two.

VisceralReaction

I have an older M1A built with surplus GI parts and a FAL. I can out shoot the FAL
and or anyone on it anytime with the M1A. The surplus parts build a much better rifle than anything
you can purchase new.
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cduarte

Quote from: fastwin on January 04, 2010, 01:35:13 PM
Very cool, a Beretta BM59! I had friend that had two.

actually, it's a BM62, only 2000 were imported.
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fastwin

I have to admit that one of my National Match M1A's will outshoot my FALs but accuracy aside I just like the FALs. My Hayabusa is faster than my Ducs but I still like my Ducs better... same sort of thing. [thumbsup]