Looking for gun nut advice

Started by angler, January 04, 2010, 10:57:25 AM

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VisceralReaction

You have to reload to be able to afford to shoot.
I picked up 2500 brass in 7.62x51 for $200 at a gun show.
I grabbed 2000 bullets at scharch.com that ran about $350
primers were around $60.
Already had alot of powder so....
Runs me about 30 cents to reload the first round.
After that i don't count the cost of the brass and the 2nd round of
reloading the cost is about 20 cents per round for bullets and primers.
It's the way to go. I have around 5000 rounds loaded and sealed and ready to go
at all times.
I was looking at Cabela's for ammo for my 375 H&H and they run commercially $9 per round
it costs me about 45 cents to reload them.
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fastwin

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Quote from: ducpainter on January 08, 2010, 03:31:35 AM
If you guys insist on making political comments in every gun thread

we won't have gun threads.

It's simple

You're right. Sorry, just trying to be a smarta@@. I edited it out. Carry on. [thumbsup]


My friends that reload say they are having trouble getting the components that they need. I don't know if the shortage is still going on but they were all moaning over the lack of primers. Maybe things have eased up. The cost of loaded ammo damn sure hasn't. It's been several months ago but I saw a guy selling one box of Winchester "white box" .380 ball ammo on ebay and the bid was up to $50!!! Ridiculous... :P

VisceralReaction

It's getting much better now. All the "gun nuts"  ;) had a knee jerk reaction
and started buying up everything. For a while you couldn't get primers, powder, or brass.
Some stuff it still hard to find like 45acp brass. It's getting alot easier to find now.
I can finally go and buy a case of primers when I need them rather than plan ahead and search.
One store north of me actually was rationing primers. They would only sell 200 at a time to anyone.
I suppose it spread them around rather than allowing some jerk that would go buy all 10 cases.
just to horde them.
There are squirrels juggling knives in my head

acalles

Quote from: fastwin on January 08, 2010, 12:31:17 PM
You're right. Sorry, just trying to be a smarta@@. I edited it out. Carry on. [thumbsup]


My friends that reload say they are having trouble getting the components that they need. I don't know if the shortage is still going on but they were all moaning over the lack of primers. Maybe things have eased up. The cost of loaded ammo damn sure hasn't. It's been several months ago but I saw a guy selling one box of Winchester "white box" .380 ball ammo on ebay and the bid was up to $50!!! Ridiculous... :P


on ebay?

I bought a walther scope (ps44) on there from germany and they (and paypal) closed my account for buying gun related itmes even though the sale had happened months before. There pretty strict wiht this stuff. I don't think they'd allow ammo to be actioned off.

also I'm  :'( about .380 virtually dissapearing... I have a PPKS that is starving. that little pistol shoots great, but I haven't shot it in over a year.

at least I'm starting to fin bulk 9mm and 22lr again..  [thumbsup]

BTW I picked up a XD9 used.. $350 with 200 rounds, a extra mag and some hokey tactical stuff (that I guess comes with these pistols).

I initally wasn't in love with the pistol till after I shot it. wow, it shoots very well, great trigger and easy to control, I also like the grip safety.

fastwin

Yep, there were shops here in Dallas, TX rationing primers. Don't know how many they would sell you at a pop, just had reloading friends tell me that was their experience. Glad it's getting better. That whole .380acp shortage thing was/is nuts. I guess lots of folks picked up the little Ruger LCPs about the time the crunch hit and the bingo... no more .380 anywhere. I guess the manufacturers were cranking out so much 9mm for military/police orders they didn't care about the lost .380 sales.

angler

Quote from: acalles on January 08, 2010, 01:15:29 PM


BTW I picked up a XD9 used.. $350 with 200 rounds, a extra mag and some hokey tactical stuff (that I guess comes with these pistols).

I initally wasn't in love with the pistol till after I shot it. wow, it shoots very well, great trigger and easy to control, I also like the grip safety.

I'm looking for one in 45.  My bro-in-law got one as part of his concealed carry course and loves it.  So do I.....
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acalles

I've considering getting into reloading just so I can shoot my PPKS and .30cal luger.

I've only ever found one box of .30luger any where and it was $50 for 50. its another great pistol I rarely get to shoot.

fastwin

Quote from: angler on January 08, 2010, 01:21:36 PM
I'm looking for one in 45.  My bro-in-law got one as part of his concealed carry course and loves it.  So do I.....

We have (me included!) thread jacked the sh#t out of your thread. So much to the point I had forgotten that you wanted a semi auto .308 to start with. Lots of good advice and ideas in all these posts, has any of it pushed you one way or another on what you might get? Just curious. ???

angler

Quote from: fastwin on January 09, 2010, 01:37:35 PM
We have (me included!) thread jacked the sh#t out of your thread. So much to the point I had forgotten that you wanted a semi auto .308 to start with. Lots of good advice and ideas in all these posts, has any of it pushed you one way or another on what you might get? Just curious. ???

I have been doing a little of the jacking myself.......

I'm pretty much back where I started - looking for a forged receiver M14/M1A.  I saw a REPR recently and it got me thinking about other actions in this caliber.  It seems that this thread falls pretty much in line with Boston's Gun Bible - M1A best, FAL and AR10 (and other Stoner variants) somewhere behind it.  I'm in no real hurry, looking for a good deal on the right gun, so if anyone hears of one, let me know.

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ducatiz

Quote from: angler on January 11, 2010, 03:46:53 AM
I have been doing a little of the jacking myself.......

I'm pretty much back where I started - looking for a forged receiver M14/M1A.  I saw a REPR recently and it got me thinking about other actions in this caliber.  It seems that this thread falls pretty much in line with Boston's Gun Bible - M1A best, FAL and AR10 (and other Stoner variants) somewhere behind it.  I'm in no real hurry, looking for a good deal on the right gun, so if anyone hears of one, let me know.




you want a finished piece or you want to build?

If you have the coin, check out the LRB receivers and rifles.  They make the receivers the original method -- hammer forged.  Actually, Norinco/Polytech does as well but their finishing is not as good and their bolts are known to have bad heat treat or just soft.

The Polytech M14 rifles are very nice otherwise.  If you pick one up (they are relatively cheap) send it to Fulton and have them work it over and replace the bolt with a USGI model (and fit it).  Walt Kuleck swears by them, I sold him a brand new one ages ago that I had sitting in the box.  He works wonders.
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angler

Quote from: ducatiz on January 11, 2010, 03:51:02 AM

you want a finished piece or you want to build?

If you have the coin, check out the LRB receivers and rifles.  They make the receivers the original method -- hammer forged.  Actually, Norinco/Polytech does as well but their finishing is not as good and their bolts are known to have bad heat treat or just soft.

The Polytech M14 rifles are very nice otherwise.  If you pick one up (they are relatively cheap) send it to Fulton and have them work it over and replace the bolt with a USGI model (and fit it).  Walt Kuleck swears by them, I sold him a brand new one ages ago that I had sitting in the box.  He works wonders.

If the right built gun came along, I would buy it, but I also like to mod (why I'm in this forum actually). 

Good tip on Polytech - looks like they have a pretty good rep for a cheap gun.
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ducatiz

Quote from: angler on January 11, 2010, 04:02:18 AM
If the right built gun came along, I would buy it, but I also like to mod (why I'm in this forum actually). 

Good tip on Polytech - looks like they have a pretty good rep for a cheap gun.

yeah, you will be surprised.  their barrels are very good.  most of the parts are a-ok, the wood looks good and is hard (some kind of funky chinese burl)..  fulton will do a full swapout, just keeping the receiver or partial (i.e. keep the barrel).. and swap out to USGI stuff.

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angler

Quote from: ducatiz on January 11, 2010, 04:09:48 AM
yeah, you will be surprised.  their barrels are very good.  most of the parts are a-ok, the wood looks good and is hard (some kind of funky chinese burl)..  fulton will do a full swapout, just keeping the receiver or partial (i.e. keep the barrel).. and swap out to USGI stuff.



Just went over to Fulton's web site - I've got too much stuff to do today to get sidetracked like that.....


DROOL.....

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cduarte

Quote from: ducatiz on January 11, 2010, 04:09:48 AM
yeah, you will be surprised.  their barrels are very good.  most of the parts are a-ok, the wood looks good and is hard (some kind of funky chinese burl)..  fulton will do a full swapout, just keeping the receiver or partial (i.e. keep the barrel).. and swap out to USGI stuff.



you'd be better off having smith enterprises do the USGI bolt conversion, pretty much all the other parts are good (the barrels are excellent) except for the sights. If you do get a polytech, I would do the USGI bolt conversion, put garand sights on it and replace the stock, trigger group and flash suppressor with USGI as well.
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ducatiz

Quote from: cduarte on January 11, 2010, 06:08:04 AM
you'd be better off having smith enterprises do the USGI bolt conversion, pretty much all the other parts are good (the barrels are excellent) except for the sights. If you do get a polytech, I would do the USGI bolt conversion, put garand sights on it and replace the stock, trigger group and flash suppressor with USGI as well.

why do you say Smith > Fulton?
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