Mobil 1 Full Synthetic for V-Twins

Started by Desert Dust, January 05, 2010, 05:38:04 PM

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Desert Dust

I want to use Mobil 1 20/50 full synthetic for V-Twins, along with a K&N oil filter. The Mobil 1 oil is available at Wal Mart for only $8.50 per quart. I like this as opposed to using Shell synthetic blend for a higher price.

I change my oil every 2,500 miles.

Any pros or cons to this choice?  2007 S2R 1K.   ??? 
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NAKID

Use a regular synthetic automobile oil....
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ducatiz

it's a quality oil just like their 4T 10w40.  make sure your temp range is right though, if you are in the USA, I wouldn't use it unless you live in SoCal or somewhere the temp never goes below 50 F in the winter.
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Quote from: NAKID on January 05, 2010, 05:42:11 PM
Use a regular synthetic automobile oil....

+1.  The V-twin oil was designed for Harley type engines that run at lower RPMs than high perfromance Ducatis.  I run regular Mobil 1 oil in my Duc with no problems.

Scott

Desert Dust

Quote from: NAKID on January 05, 2010, 05:42:11 PM
Use a regular synthetic automobile oil....

I used Mobil 1 synthetic automobile oil on my Duc 900 SS and had no problems for 13,000 miles, but my neighbor, who manages an MC shop, convinced me to go with motorcycle specific oil.
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Desert Dust

Quote from: scott_araujo on January 05, 2010, 06:39:18 PM
+1.  The V-twin oil was designed for Harley type engines that run at lower RPMs than high perfromance Ducatis.  I run regular Mobil 1 oil in my Duc with no problems.

Scott

I figured that the Mobil 1 V-Twin oil was designed for a Harley, but Mobil 1 also makes a full synthetic sport bike oil. I thought that the characteristics of the S2R 1k motor were closer to a Harley V-twin than to a high revving sport bike.

Actually, the S2R 1K  is probably a "tweener." Not quite like a Harley V-twin, but not quite like a high revving sport bike.
07 S2R 1K:  "You are not special. You're not a beautiful and unique snowflake. You're the same decaying organic matter as everything else. We're all part of the same compost heap. We're all singing, all dancing crap of the world.”

Desert Dust

Quote from: ducatiz on January 05, 2010, 05:43:11 PM
it's a quality oil just like their 4T 10w40.  make sure your temp range is right though, if you are in the USA, I wouldn't use it unless you live in SoCal or somewhere the temp never goes below 50 F in the winter.

Thanks! I live in So Cal, and 50 degrees is getting pretty darn cold!  8)

(10 miles from Mexicali)  [evil]
07 S2R 1K:  "You are not special. You're not a beautiful and unique snowflake. You're the same decaying organic matter as everything else. We're all part of the same compost heap. We're all singing, all dancing crap of the world.”

NAKID

Quote from: Desert Dust on January 05, 2010, 07:35:47 PM
I figured that the Mobil 1 V-Twin oil was designed for a Harley,

Moto specific oils are usually intended for wet clutches, which we don't have to worry about...
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Desert Dust

Quote from: NAKID on January 05, 2010, 07:39:50 PM
Moto specific oils are usually intended for wet clutches, which we don't have to worry about...

Excelent point!
07 S2R 1K:  "You are not special. You're not a beautiful and unique snowflake. You're the same decaying organic matter as everything else. We're all part of the same compost heap. We're all singing, all dancing crap of the world.”

arai_speed

Quote from: Desert Dust on January 05, 2010, 07:38:24 PM
Thanks! I live in So Cal, and 50 degrees is getting pretty darn cold!  8)

(10 miles from Mexicali)  [evil]

El Centro?  There are some nice roads going up towards the mountains...

scott_araujo

I run 10w40 but wasn't going to mention it to avoid the holy war ;)  As mentioned it covers most temps for riding season most places in the US.  I get colder temps here in Portland and take occasional winter rides.  10w40 covers me for the whole year here.

Unless an auto oil is marked as being 'energy conserving' or having 'friction reducers' it should be ok for use with a moto wet clutch.  Some of us (800's) still have wet clutches.  Of course some oils cause slipping for some people with some clutches.  That said, don't be afraid to try/use a good quality auto oil.

Tweener?!?!?  I don't know about that.  If someone asks me if my Monster is more like a Harley or an R6 I know what my answer is! ;)  That said if all I had was V-twin oil I'd use it and move on.

Scott

Triple J

Quote from: NAKID on January 05, 2010, 07:39:50 PM
Moto specific oils are usually intended for wet clutches, which we don't have to worry about...

They are also designed to deal with the higher shearing forces in moto engines coming from the transmission gears...which car oils do not have to deal with. Have you already forgotten everything from the old oil thread?  [cheeky]

Personally I stick with moto specific synthetic oils...usually Motul (40 wt.) as it is easiest for me to get and "reasonably" priced.

Lots of people use regular synthetic without problems though...so whatever you are comfortable with.

scott_araujo

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No!  Nooooo!!!!  Not another oil thread!!!!!

[laugh]

I do admit that part of the reason I use Mobil 1 is that it is more convenient and cheaper to get than synthetic moto oil.  Not much though on either count.  I also think that regular oil changes with anything decent are way more important than the specific brand/type/weight oil you use.  Just how I live my life.  You're free to do whatever you want.

How did I let myself get sucked into another oil thread  [bang]

Just a side question if anyone knows on the Mobil 1 V-twin....
Since Harley engines don't share the oil between engine and tranny, does this oil have any special shear qualities?

Scott

NAKID

Quote from: scott_araujo on January 06, 2010, 08:08:03 AM
Some of us (800's) still have wet clutches.

Yup, but he has an S2R1000, as do I. That's why I said "we"...
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ducpainter

Since someone started another oil thread... ;D

Keep in mind that harley does not use a unit construction like Ducati

Neither does any car maker.
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