What is a Duc.EE?

Started by MotoCreations, January 19, 2010, 08:59:42 AM

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MotoCreations

What is a Duc.EE?

It weighs under 1 ounce! (ha ha)

[quasi parts introduction]

For those who have been following along the past six months, one of the problems with the new M1100 Monster, Hypermotard, Streetfighter and 848/1098/1198 is they have this clunky actuator motor connected to the ECU that use push/pull cables to open a butterfly valve in the factory installed exhaust system.  It works well.  But if you put an aftermarket exhaust on your Ducati, inevitably you have to leave the clunky Rube Goldberg actuator device installed.  It's ugly!  And if you remove it, you get CEL error messages on your gauge cluster.

So doing a bit of "Imagineering" and talking with Bernard/Vizi-Tec (LED Taillight fame) -- we both dived into the project in regards to reverse engineering, specification, design & engineering and then alpha/beta testing and then further testing across the varous Ducati's for the past six months. 

Thus a new type of Ducati aftermarket product for those who don't want to buy a DP ECU and yet want to remove this device -- our Ducati Exhaust Emulator which became nicknamed "Duc.EE".

Duc.EE is solidstate circuit design, software programmed, vibration resistant and weather proof.  Five year warranty.  Pretty easy to install by anyone in a few minutes. (it takes a lot longer to remove the factory actuator!)

For the Monster folks, it's only applicable to the new M1100 currently.   Price is $125 + shipping and only available through us here at MotoCreations.

(note: Bernard and I are working on various other electronic products upcoming -- we are only just getting started...)




ungeheuer

#1
Looks like an excellent solution to the exhaust servo bulk and I'll be having me one of em  [thumbsup]  .....but not until I see what the MonoBoom (and other reported motocreations "underseat" exhaust options) for m1100 look like.....  ;) [popcorn]
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monsta

Quote from: MotoCreations on January 19, 2010, 08:59:42 AM

(note: Bernard and I are working on various other electronic products upcoming -- we are only just getting started...)


any hints?  :)
93 M900 - 07 ST3 - 00 748s trackbike - 78 900SS - 13 848 EVO Corse SE

Drunken Monkey

Any chance for something like this:

http://www.motogadget.de/en/m_unit.html

Or is the "uber modder" market too limiting?
I own several motorcycles. I have owned lots of motorcycles. And have bolted and/or modified lots of crap to said motorcycles...

stopintime

252,000 km/seventeen years - loving it

MotoCreations

to the above questions -- Yes  ;D

Yes -- I am thinking even beyond that scope as well.  Uber moders with a bit of techno geek in them will rejoice at what is coming. Remember it does take a long time to reverse engineer, create new electronics hardware, software program and then test-test-test the product.  Each new product will get more complex as it goes.

Remember I am tired of people not building the aftermarket parts and devices that I want. (and others want as well it appears!)  Thus why I am doing what I am now in conjunction with exhausts, electronics, other aftermarket parts and carbonfiber upcoming.

But first we need to sell some Duc.EE's! (to pay for more R&D) Big thing is to make people aware that such a product as the Duc.EE exists in the giant marketplace of the Ducati aftermarket.  All help is appreciated in getting the word out to the Hypermotard, Streetfighter and 848/1098/1198 folks in the world.  Anytime you put an aftermarket exhaust (ours or anyones) on your new Ducati, you get stuck with the Rube Goldberg gizmo beneath the seat that does nothing then waste space & weight.  Also some of the M1100 folks have learned the Sargeant/Corbin seats don't have space provisions for the actuator assembly -- so their new seats won't fit.

Next up is another product that went "alpha" today.  Thus going to do some testing with it for a few weeks.  Then will design/build a "beta" version to do more testing and with the "test crew".  Then we will do the final design for production and test again before releasing.

As someone once said "the future is always looking brighter..."  ;)


dbran1949

Quote from: Drunken Monkey on January 20, 2010, 12:59:05 PM
Any chance for something like this:

http://www.motogadget.de/en/m_unit.html

Or is the "uber modder" market too limiting?
All I can say is, it's a good thing we have cigarette packs and bread boxes. The two things by which all others are measured

Drunken Monkey

Quote from: MotoCreations on January 20, 2010, 02:02:11 PM
to the above questions -- Yes  ;D

Huzzah! I played around a bit with this sort of stuff earlier last year (fun with PIC controllers and MOSFETS) but ultimately I gave up since I have two kids an no free time. Glad to see someone is filling this market.

Quote from: dbran1949 on January 20, 2010, 02:07:01 PM
All I can say is, it's a good thing we have cigarette packs and bread boxes. The two things by which all others are measured

Are you talking English or metric breadboxes/cigarettes?  ;D
I own several motorcycles. I have owned lots of motorcycles. And have bolted and/or modified lots of crap to said motorcycles...

Ohmic

Duc.EE was our first project.  Thanks to all who have helped see this project come to life.  [clap]

As Mark already mentioned, we have a second "cooler" project entering Beta phase. Alpha passed bench tests with flying colors. Due to non-disclosure i can't say more; Else Mark's lawyer will use the big stick on me :P  But what i can say is that it is exhaust system specific. Something that will set a new standard.


Quote from: Drunken Monkey on January 20, 2010, 12:59:05 PM
Any chance for something like this:

http://www.motogadget.de/en/m_unit.html

Or is the "uber modder" market too limiting?
... Yes! and then some!! List of integrated options too long to list. The schematic is 100% captured. Expected fabrication on-hand in ~2-3wks + 2wks code development. Only 3 units will be produce at this time. All spoken for. Reason being as mentioned. Limited market. If demand is there, more will be produce. This mod is not for the faint hearted. Hint = active RFid/remote start.
'It's NOT a Harley... It's a Ducati!'

Bike#1: 2002 Ducati MH900e #1801
Bike#2: 2006 Ducati Monster S2R1000
Bike#3: 2006 Ducati Sport1000
Bike#4: 2008 Ducati HyperMotard 1100

Amlethae

First bike (ever): 2008 Monster 696 [now it's the wife's]
Lost to the front end of a GMC truck: 2010 Monster 1100s w/ABS [miss it!]
Currently Riding: 2013 Streetfighter 848

Raux

are you waiting for the Duc.EE answer. it's an ad at the top sometime now.

Amlethae

Quote from: Raux on April 21, 2010, 08:24:31 PM
are you waiting for the Duc.EE answer. it's an ad at the top sometime now.


oh no, wanting to hear if there arr any updates about these mystery products  ;D
First bike (ever): 2008 Monster 696 [now it's the wife's]
Lost to the front end of a GMC truck: 2010 Monster 1100s w/ABS [miss it!]
Currently Riding: 2013 Streetfighter 848

WetDuc

I wish I had a SF so I had a reason to need the Duc.EE. :-\ 
2007 S2R1000, 2009 M696 & 2008 M695 (foster bikes)

dennisd

I installed a Duc.EE a couple of weeks ago on my M1100.  I bought a 696 mid-pipe off ebay (no valve on the 696), replaced my mid-pipe with it, plugged in the Duc.EE and fired it up.  No codes and now the 1100 sounds like it should at idle.  And now I don't have to look at the valve in the pipe; much cleaner look.

Thanks for a great product!  [thumbsup] [thumbsup]
Current: '14 M1200S; '09 BMW R1200GSA; '06 Harley Roadking; '02 Suzuki SV650N; all the others sold

ungeheuer

Quote from: dennisd on April 22, 2010, 05:15:32 AM
I installed a Duc.EE a couple of weeks ago on my M1100.  I bought a 696 mid-pipe off ebay (no valve on the 696), replaced my mid-pipe with it, plugged in the Duc.EE and fired it up.  No codes and now the 1100 sounds like it should at idle.  And now I don't have to look at the valve in the pipe; much cleaner look.

Thanks for a great product!  [thumbsup] [thumbsup]
Me too, much neater than the clumsy stock flapper-gate  8).
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