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« Reply #15 on: April 22, 2010, 02:11:05 PM »

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« Reply #16 on: April 22, 2010, 03:43:20 PM »

One Duc.XXX product entered engineering again after ALPHA design and minor testing. (basic device worked but we couldn't get the display waterproof without being $$$)  Thus we de-coupled the LED display (for tuning purposes) and the device itself -- and will test upcoming in a BETA iteration.  Trick is designing the product with a price point of $125 and yet retain the quality control standards we are adamant to maintain.

Per Duc.EE?  Thanks everyone for the positive comments!  Bernard and I have been surprised by the response via the International Ducatista community in accepting so far.  Two exhaust vendors currently bundle their systems as well.  The StreetFighter community loves them as by removing the servo motor (beneath the seat), it allows room for a PCIII then. (there is no room on a SF to hide anything!)  The interesting group to acquire Duc.EE's are the Microtech(K?) ECU customers -- you get an EXVL message if the servo motor is disconnected when using their aftermarket ECU.  And I'm positive we (unfortunately) tripled the price of used 696 mid-pipe (takeoffs) to the m1100 guys to make their exhaust systems breath better.

Upcoming for the popcorn guys?  As mentioned before, the future will definitely be brighter...



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« Reply #17 on: April 22, 2010, 08:32:52 PM »

....Upcoming for the popcorn guys?  As mentioned before, the future will definitely be brighter...
Hmmmm.... I pretty sure there's a clue HIDden in that comment..... although I guess I could be misLED  Wink
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« Reply #18 on: September 14, 2010, 04:09:34 PM »

Okay, for those of us that don't have the 696 Inter pipe, how do I ensure the flapper is in the open position, what is its default position without power, open or closed?

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« Reply #19 on: September 14, 2010, 04:40:04 PM »

Okay, after some research, this what I found. The flapper is always open(held open by spring) until start up then it closes to lower sound level up to a certain RPM. Above that RPM, it opens and stays open until the engine RPM goes below that RPM. So, for those looking to remove the Flapper motor and cables, remove the flapper motor and cables, install the DUC.EE and done! Saved weight and more space under the seat! There is no loss of low end power as with the Yamaha EXUP valve if this valve disabled.

www.ducati.org/forums/showthread.php?t=7089
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« Reply #20 on: September 14, 2010, 04:43:32 PM »

Okay, after some research, this what I found. The flapper is always open(held open by spring) until start up then it closes to lower sound level up to a certain RPM. Above that RPM, it opens and stays open until the engine RPM goes below that RPM. So, for those looking to remove the Flapper motor and cables, remove the flapper motor and cables, install the DUC.EE and done! Saved weight and more space under the seat! There is no loss of low end power as with the Yamaha EXUP valve if this valve disabled.

www.ducati.org/forums/showthread.php?t=7089

Not quite right.  The only time your flapper-gate flaps....... is on start-up, when it chirps closed/open just to ensure it remains functioning and doesnt bind up from lack of use.  The only other circumstance it flaps is at 3000rpm (I think its 3000rpm, I forget the exact number now... could be 3500....) in neutral  - for noise testing purposes.   Its there just to defeat the noise test in certain jurisdictions.

When you are riding it NEVER flaps.

So the "default" is "open".  If you removed the servo motor and cable, the flapper gate remains in the "open" position.
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« Reply #21 on: September 14, 2010, 04:52:23 PM »

Unger, absolutely right, I just re-read the link. waytogo DUC.EE is in, flapper motor and cable out!! No CEL light,, I will give a ride report, when I go riding.
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« Reply #22 on: September 17, 2010, 04:05:28 PM »

Observations after ride sans Flapper drive motor and cables. I don't know if it is just me, it feels smoother, before there was always a delay for RPM to go down when shifting at lower speeds. Now, as soon as you back off the throttle, the RPM goes right away and you sneak in that next cog! Less feeling of wanting to stall at takeoffs!! Those are my biggest observations.
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« Reply #23 on: September 18, 2010, 12:28:06 AM »

Its just you  Smiley.

How could it actually be any different at all?  The flapper gate itself remains in situ and whilst you ride it flaps no more or less than it ever did.  What you saved was almost half a kilo in excess baggage - but whilst riding that is the one and only difference. 
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« Reply #24 on: September 18, 2010, 08:20:38 AM »

Unger, absolutely right, I just re-read the link. waytogo DUC.EE is in, flapper motor and cable out!! No CEL light,, I will give a ride report, when I go riding.

Did you go inside the stock Y-Junction and remove the actual butterfly valve? Or is it physically still in there?(In the open position of course)
Just wondering how people are doing this mod. For the ones who don't have a spare M696 Y-Junction that is.
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« Reply #25 on: September 18, 2010, 09:07:05 AM »

Did you go inside the stock Y-Junction and remove the actual butterfly valve? Or is it physically still in there?(In the open position of course)
Just wondering how people are doing this mod. For the ones who don't have a spare M696 Y-Junction that is.

The Flapper is still inside the pipe, with out the motor, it is default open and held open be spring pressure. I'm still looking for 696 Y-junction, clean up the look.
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« Reply #26 on: September 18, 2010, 12:32:57 PM »

Check ebay often.  I found a guy trying to sell his stock 696 cans and mid pipe.  I sent him a message about getting only the mid pipe if his entire posting didn't sell (he only had about 3 days left).  Three days later he got back to me and I picked up the midpipe rather cheaply.
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« Reply #27 on: September 24, 2010, 07:35:00 PM »

Thanks D!! Will keep an eye out! [moto] This is for Mark and Bernard, the brake flasher until, I get questions on it from a few riders out this way! I love knowing I can be seen!
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« Reply #28 on: February 04, 2011, 12:59:45 PM »

To open this thread up again...with what is probably a very stupid question...I have the Duc.EE (not yet installed), and I still have the stock exhaust on my 1100S (and will likely leave it that way for this year I'd say)...what do I get out of putting the Duc.EE now while keeping the stock exhaust?  Anything really?  Is it worth my time?  Or should I just wait until I can afford the aftermarket exhaust and then I would install it then?

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« Reply #29 on: February 04, 2011, 01:05:58 PM »

To open this thread up again...with what is probably a very stupid question...I have the Duc.EE (not yet installed), and I still have the stock exhaust on my 1100S (and will likely leave it that way for this year I'd say)...what do I get out of putting the Duc.EE now while keeping the stock exhaust?  Anything really?  Is it worth my time?  Or should I just wait until I can afford the aftermarket exhaust and then I would install it then?

Thanks,
Mike B

I am not sure, but i think the default position is open. if so, if you unhook the servo motor you'll have an open exhaust. and you'll lose the pounds of the servo motor.
also, you can pick up a 696 mid pipe in the meantime off ebay.
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