ECU reflash

Started by jwoconnor, January 25, 2010, 05:09:33 PM

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Mojo S2R

Quote from: skxf430 on March 02, 2010, 09:50:37 PM
sorry for the off topic comment, but why do people want to disable the immobilizer?

There may be other reasons.  The one I know of is that in order to be able to use an aftermarket gaugepod you need to get rid of the OEM Gaugepod or hide the guts of it somewhere else like under the tank.  The immobilizer is part of the gaugepod circuitboard.  Disabling it in the ECU would mean you can ditch the OEM gaugepod for an aftermarket one.  Like I said, may be other reasons but this is the only one I know of.

scott_araujo

Also, if you need to replace the gauge pod or ECU you need to do so as a set if the immobilizer is not deactivated.  They key to each other and you can't replace either piece alone.  The two together are usually very expensive.  So if you're replacing either piece, like say on a salvage bike you bought, theft recovery, or custom you just built, it's often cheaper to just have the immobilizer deactivated.

Another reason is if you lose both the red key and the code card from Ducati and need a new key made.  New key copies cannot be made from the black keys, you need either the code card or the red key to set the electronic code in a new key.  Ducati does not keep records of these numbers so if you lose them and need a new key you are again looking at buying a matched set of gauges and ECU.

Scott

Howie

The system is also not the most reliable, leaving the rightful owner stranded.

Duck-Stew

Quote from: He Man on March 02, 2010, 07:31:35 PM
any issues on extremely cold weather starts? like 10-20 degrees?

Sorry, but I won't be able to test that... 

I'm in SoCal.  ;D  [cheeky]
Bike-less Portuguese immigrant enjoying life.

He Man

Quote from: Duck-Stew on March 03, 2010, 07:07:23 AM
Sorry, but I won't be able to test that... 

I'm in SoCal.  ;D  [cheeky]

>:(

looks like im keeping my bike and a steering damper + ECU Flash is my top two mod priorities.

scott_araujo

Quote from: howie on March 03, 2010, 02:57:51 AM
The system is also not the most reliable, leaving the rightful owner stranded.

Inconceivable!   [laugh]

WetDuc

Quote from: He Man on March 03, 2010, 07:27:11 AM

looks like im keeping my bike and a steering damper + ECU Flash is my top two mod priorities.
I have similar priorities for my 695 and they also include suspension.  ECU re-flash sounds like an awesome deal!
2007 S2R1000, 2009 M696 & 2008 M695 (foster bikes)

He Man

Quote from: iamhybris on March 03, 2010, 07:51:25 AM
I have similar priorities for my 695 and they also include suspension.  ECU re-flash sounds like an awesome deal!

ive heard some bad stuff about the ECU flashes, and some good stuff as well. but for hte most part i am optimistic.

Suspension should be number ONE on your list. i did mine. love it. but my bike is in ICU right now :(

CDawg

Quote from: He Man on March 03, 2010, 09:06:41 AM
ive heard some bad stuff about the ECU flashes, and some good stuff as well. but for hte most part i am optimistic.

The potential cold start glitch is giving me cold feet...
My bike runs fine with stock ECU so I'm thinking about waiting and seeing how the ECU reflash chips shake out.

He Man

its like riding a carbed bike, without all the benefits. lol

WetDuc

#70
Even if we don't get reflashes, they have cores for $400 which is still less than half from DP.
 But I mean, to me it seems the reflashing is sort of pirating the mapping and I don't mind that, but expectedly it will have some problem sources.  But if desmoporsche has it figured out right, man, that's a perfect solution.  Duck stew and jwo made it work, that sounds pretty good.

He man, I know your bike is on an IV, just don't pull the plug.
2007 S2R1000, 2009 M696 & 2008 M695 (foster bikes)

jwoconnor

It's been in the high 20's to around 30 this week and that's why I think I'm needing to crack the throttle slightly to fire it up. It will idle at 2k for 10-20 seconds and then drop to normal and idle rough for a bit then die so I hold it at 2000 for maybe 30 seconds then it seems to idle alright. I wanted to wait for warmer temps before I do any more messing with the TPS or TB syncing.

I only have the black key. That was one of the reasons for the ECU flash. It also ran really rough under 4k so I wanted the PC3 option open which meant getting rid of the O2 sensor. I had also heard from a couple of guys with S2R1000 that the DP map was good enough for the full pipe and open box I was going with. It was $250 bucks no matter what I had done so I took it all.
2007 BMW R1200GS Adventure
2006 S2R1000

jwoconnor

Quote from: iamhybris on March 03, 2010, 03:13:25 PM
 But I mean, to me it seems the reflashing is sort of pirating the mapping and I don't mind that, but expectedly it will have some problem sources.  But if desmoporsche has it figured out right, man, that's a perfect solution.  Duck stew and jwo made it work, that sounds pretty good.

The DP map should be available to Ducati owners for free. It makes the bike run like it should. The fact that Ducati would ransom the normal operation of my bike for $1200 pretty much clears my conscience on the issue.
2007 BMW R1200GS Adventure
2006 S2R1000

jwoconnor

Quote from: He Man on March 03, 2010, 09:06:41 AM
I've heard some bad stuff about the ECU flashes, and some good stuff as well. but for the most part i am optimistic.

Suspension should be number ONE on your list. i did mine. love it. but my bike is in ICU right now :(

Having only the black key I didn't feel I had much to lose and much to gain.

I did pick up a 749S Showa shock from ebay a few weeks ago, just having trouble finding out what weight the Showa spring is good for and what I should be replacing it with. I'm also looking at fork-springs and oil.
2007 BMW R1200GS Adventure
2006 S2R1000

He Man

Quote from: jwoconnor on March 03, 2010, 04:29:52 PM
Having only the black key I didn't feel I had much to lose and much to gain.

I did pick up a 749S Showa shock from ebay a few weeks ago, just having trouble finding out what weight the Showa spring is good for and what I should be replacing it with. I'm also looking at fork-springs and oil.

its not even good enough for the Monsters own weight. I installed it and wondered why i could flat foot my bike with my knees bent. i uninstalled it got a new spring and voila.