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WetDuc
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Re: ECU reflash
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Reply #75 on:
March 04, 2010, 03:06:46 AM »
Quote from: jwoconnor on March 03, 2010, 04:24:23 PM
The DP map should be available to Ducati owners for free. It makes the bike run like it should. The fact that Ducati would ransom the normal operation of my bike for $1200 pretty much clears my conscience on the issue.
I wasn't trying to imply that the re-flash was immoral or anything. More so I was agreeing with it. The DP maps should be free anyway, but the world of software is full of rip-offs and everyone accepts this as normal.
Does your S2R1000 have an idle lever?
Did they put a new sticker on the core when they flashed it?
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Re: ECU reflash
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Reply #76 on:
March 04, 2010, 04:00:30 AM »
Quote from: iamhybris on March 04, 2010, 03:06:46 AM
I wasn't trying to imply that the re-flash was immoral or anything. More so I was agreeing with it. The DP maps should be free anyway, but the world of software is full of rip-offs and everyone accepts this as normal.
Does your S2R1000 have an idle lever?
Did they put a new sticker on the core when they flashed it?
no in reality, the stock ECU is the way it should run, according to the government. changing it for on road use is illegal, hence the premium and the stipulation that the termi system with the DP ECU is for offroad use... unless you get the Ti setup, which i bet is more similar to the stock ECU than the CF or SS systems
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WetDuc
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Re: ECU reflash
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Reply #77 on:
March 04, 2010, 04:14:08 AM »
That is true, might be good enough reason to keep a stock backup ECU.
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CDawg
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Re: ECU reflash
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Reply #78 on:
April 07, 2010, 10:37:20 AM »
Any update on cold starts? Does it still stutter with the DesmoPorsche ECU or is it running perfectly?
I'm pretty close to pulling the trigger myself on ordering one.
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Duck-Stew
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Re: ECU reflash
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April 07, 2010, 01:56:13 PM »
Don't know about cold starts other then what I've posted already (I'm in SoCal).
But, my 2nd ecu-reflash fires the bike right up! (I'm not quite finished w/the exhaust system yet so no test-rides so far...)
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vossy
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Re: ECU reflash
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April 07, 2010, 05:20:59 PM »
jwoconnor - any news on how your reflash is working now?
Am thinking of going down the same path as you.
I'm just concerned a bit about this light up problem (starting)
Even contemplating the Protune reflash kit for my 07 S2R1000.
decisions decisions.........
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Re: ECU reflash
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April 07, 2010, 05:44:46 PM »
Bobby has done a couple of ecu's for me both incredible. He's also an incredible source for parts of all kinds. I'm sending him the ecu for the bobber in a week or so to pull the o2 sensor. Give him a call
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vossy
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Re: ECU reflash
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April 07, 2010, 07:16:50 PM »
Not as easy as that. I'm in OZ so may throw him an email soon regarding ECU reflash.
If i do have any issues it could end up being a long drawn out process considering the distance.
I'm unable to find anyone here who can/will do ECU reflashes for the price that Bobby does, even with the currency converted into U.S.
I'll see what evolves
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jwoconnor
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Re: ECU reflash
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Reply #83 on:
April 09, 2010, 05:04:54 PM »
Quote from: vossy on April 07, 2010, 05:20:59 PM
jwoconnor - any news on how your reflash is working now?
Am thinking of going down the same path as you.
I'm just concerned a bit about this light up problem (starting)
Even contemplating the Protune reflash kit for my 07 S2R1000.
decisions decisions.........
Just got back from a longer ride today. Temps in the upper 60's bike fired right up and fast idled (~2k) for maybe 20 seconds then dropped to ~1300 and stayed there. Idle is not as smooth as my V-strom but being my first Ducati and not having any others around to compare I can't say if this is a normal idle or not. Perhaps I need to sync the TBs and get a fresh tank of gas in it.
6th gear I can lug down below 2500 and it will pull smoothly to redline. Part throttle cruising at a bit over 3000rpms has a burble, not really a stumble/shudder like it had stock but not seamless either. Anywhere above or below that is smooth. I'd really like to dyno the bike and check air/fuel ratio. The local community college will do it cheap if I trust them...
All in all, I'm happy with it. I can always add the PC3 later for mapping and still be way under the retail Termi ECU price.
The only thing I'll change is getting the baffles for the Arrows because they are so damn loud!
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Re: ECU reflash
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April 09, 2010, 08:42:37 PM »
Set valve clearance, idle speed, idle CO, and synch throttle bodies. Makes a world of difference.
Scott
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WetDuc
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Re: ECU reflash
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April 10, 2010, 06:14:13 AM »
This is still something I plan on doing. Does anyone have a specific list of things to do when you put in a re-flashed ECU? Which sensors and parameters need to be adjusted?
jwo, I made some baffles for my cans and they work pretty good, see my other thread in Access&mods.
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Re: ECU reflash
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April 10, 2010, 12:34:04 PM »
Quote from: iamhybris on April 10, 2010, 06:14:13 AM
This is still something I plan on doing. Does anyone have a specific list of things to do when you put in a re-flashed ECU? Which sensors and parameters need to be adjusted?
jwo, I made some baffles for my cans and they work pretty good, see my other thread in Access&mods.
TPS needs to be set and CO trim adjusted.
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WetDuc
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Re: ECU reflash
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April 10, 2010, 12:38:59 PM »
Just those two things? I am, for the sake of my curiosity, only referring to pre-2009 monsters. That's pretty simple.
I'm so tempted to do this, but I would hate to find that getting the right airflow and backpressure for tuning to be difficult. Who knows, maybe it would be easy, but I'm just a little paranoid.
jwo, have you noticed that your bike runs cooler? I know most people who install the full Termi kit notice a significant drop in average running temperature, but didn't know if that was more due to the carbon fiber cans, the ECU or the airbox.
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Re: ECU reflash
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April 10, 2010, 01:23:06 PM »
the extra fuel probably acts to cool down the engine since a good chunk of it doenst get burned anyway.
I was talking to a shop and they said a PC3 can be addded to bikes with o2 sensors. Im curious as to how that works. they said they do it all the time on the S2R1k. Id like to avoid a reflash if possible. for the simple fact that with a reflash, you still dont get a custom setup.
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Re: ECU reflash
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April 12, 2010, 06:12:58 AM »
Quote from: He Man on April 10, 2010, 01:23:06 PM
the extra fuel probably acts to cool down the engine since a good chunk of it doenst get burned anyway.
I was talking to a shop and they said a PC3 can be addded to bikes with o2 sensors. Im curious as to how that works. they said they do it all the time on the S2R1k. Id like to avoid a reflash if possible. for the simple fact that with a reflash, you still dont get a custom setup.
AFAIK, running a PC3 on top of the stock ECU is possible, but they just zero out the map in the closed loop portion. I also understand that they don't have support for the stepper motor (fast idle) so you may end up needing to disable that somehow. I still don't see how shops are doing a PC3 on the 1000DS motors without an ECU flash to get rid of the closed loop.
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